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9 @ night xmas eve, burning my last DVD and I thought I would visit my favorite site. Jeff, thanks for the great work you did to make this pub, rec hall. cornor soapbox, blog, whatever one wants to call it, a place for all of us. I love to visit n chat n meet new friends, and more so visit old friends in a cool new way. It's a good time to be alive. Peace,Love, and a Maximum RESPECT TO ALL. CrewC

Yea the equipment circle is is a spin cycle for sure. You either pay Coffey Snd, Location Snd, TrewAudio, or you pay Uncle Sam. I like gear. One of the posters here said I'm queer for gear, Me too. Give me tools( toys ) any day. CrewC I'm on my martini set up for the year so Peace n Love to all you posting sound people here at Jeff's site, and a happy new year.

Hey Mick et all, seasons greetings. I've been reading this tread with interest and have been wondering the same thing about the producer. Since I no jack about ENG world I thought there was something that I didn't understand. I think Philips 2 rules of post prod are great and most certainly are true of production, and being married for 30 plus years, I would say they are true in that regard as well. CrewC

Hey Bruce and all, it is wacky wild work time in L.A. for sure. I hope we all survive and get to enjoy the holidays. B.P. makes many valid points in his post, but for me the #1 was that production doesn't know or care about our world. A dailies problem is always a sound problem no matter what is happining in telecine and there for the call goes to us and not the cameraman who rolls after the stix, or whatever. But I don't see how giving them double media helps, to me it gives Prod. more of a chance to fuck up. Once you hand in the dvdram or media dejur at the end of the day, the ball is and should be in there court. Once the dailies house gets it, they hold it with the negative until the job is over and done, the balls in there court. Telecine then sends a dat or dvd clone with editors timecode along with dailies to the editor. If there is say wild track on the master dvd you handed in and noted to transfer all WTs to dailies, but somehow it didn't get done, the telecine house can, should and would Whale mail it or put it on their server for the editor. And if the PA eats it or tries to play it in his car and screws it up somehow, well then it's hero time for the mixer and the back up on your hard drive will save the day, of course unless your rig is on a truck on its way to Lone Pine, then , Well it's a bad day in Mixerville USA. The other point you make about being a one man biz and the fickelness of that reality is a subject we could all add many war stories to. As far as being mercenary or cynical, I don't think so. Everywhere I roll I always hear Bruce Perlman is a good dude and a pro. Can't wait for this december to remember to end so I can chill with my wife and even the kids, cause 2007 will be here in the blink of an eye. Hope to see you n Ron soon. CrewC

Hey Mick, greetings... If I were working a show like yours, or a film, I might think about a fail/safe system just because the stakes are higher what with $$$ and performances and egos, etc, and because that kind of project has a very long life span. Where as a commercial has a super short (thankfully) life span and no matter the greatness of a performance, you will do many many more takes anyway. I think a system like the Deva is more than enough for commercials. Unless I'm misstaken, the 4 trk SD recorder would work as well. Of course if something makes you feel good, how can it be so bad, or something like that. Cheers..... Hey Jeff thanks for the info... my Deva 4 runs alot, and as you well know we commercial people do a boatload of takes and I'm sure this start stop burn start stop really tests the system. So far so good, (over 2 years). By the way, when I was asking you my question today as I was rolling on the set, I hit the 250th segment of my folder and as I'm sure you know, you can only have 250 segs per folder in v2.28, so when I tried to roll the 251st seg. and it wouldn't record, my 1st thought was that my drive died. Not a good 1st thought, lucky for me I knew about this limitation and started a new folder as soon as my heart started. As far as Greg's original question, I would never go out without a back-up system, but I wouldn't use it as a double system, to much media n wearn tear n what not for the commercial world, unless of course I was getting paid for it, then I think it's a great idea. CrewC out and about....

Hey Jeff, hope your enjoying your x-mas break from RH3, I know Don is working with Moe this week, so he won't be resting or whatever, but I hope you are. I have a question for you that is a little off this topic, but what the hey. Do you ever change the int. hard drive in your Deva, you know, rotate them for even wear n tear, or do you wait till that fatefull day when it dies. I am geting the new 100 gig drive during my year end break, so it should be good for quite a while, but since I don't participate on the deva user group yet, I wonder if there is a POV concerning drives? CrewC

Hey Greg, seasons greetings from LA. Another Sunday on the set for me, my brother Moe is working downtown, as is our partner Peter Commans, we all do commercials 99.9 % of the time and we never roll back up of our Deva's. As long as we punch the big red button, all is well and our dvdram goes off to telecine and the original recording lives on the hard drive for a month or so until we recycle the folder for a new job. This system has worked 100% of the time for us. Unless you want to sell more media, or wear out a second machine, I see no reason to roll 2 recorders unless it is a request and you are paid for 2 recorders. I do know a few sound bros that roll a dat with there hard drive recorders cause they haven't gotten a comfort level going yet, but my advice(free of course, so beware) is that you don't need to roll back up, but I may be missing another POV. CrewC

Hey Brian, nice pics of the rig. I too like a vertical cart as compared to a horizontal rig. I wonder how many posters here are horizontal mixers and how many work vertical? Thanks for the pics CrewC

ditto on more pics of the cart. awhike back I believe someone suggested that we post pics of our rigs as some have done, it's still a good idea. Iwill next year. CrewC

Thats a great slice of set life, congrats to the photographer, they say its all in the framing. Nice rig, what kind of chair You in/on? I don't recall ever seeing that one before and I thought I knew all the chairs. CrewC

Hey Bro, So. Cal. surrounds L.A., which surrounds Hollywood. If you ever visit here you can meet a lot of folks that post @ Jeffs site. CrewC

Happy New Years fatfatjames. If you ever get to So. Cal., give me a call. I would show you my pic, but I would rather see the look on your face if we ever run into each other. I am 1 ugly Mofo. Seasons Greetings, CrewC

Hey Mick, I think your concerns are right on. RVD/MXR had many of the same concerns and posted them here when he 1st became aware of the new tech. from Zaxcom. I like the idea of the product, and knowing Glenn and Co. I will like the units themselves, but there is alot to be thought through here. The politics and legal issues are very real and I think we all have the brainpower to come up with a workable solution, (I'm counting on you guys), but it is going to take work. I would think downloading the units back to the Deva and only keeping the segments that had matching t.c. from the main deck (Deva), and dumping the rest might be a 1st step, (and maybe it is). The actors should be able to get their heads around the concept and be cool with it. But I should not continue this post until I check them out and I understand the operation completly. They could be a lifesaver, or create a shitload more work for us hardworkin sound people, only time will tell. Can't wait to check them out. CrewC

Hey Mick, greetings. The built in pre roll for me, is worth the cost of the Deva indeed. I hit the big red button when I hear the sticks, never when the 1st ad calls roll sound like he has touretts or an ocd or whatever. I have alot of good friends who are AD's, but in their desire to push the ball down the field, they will roll sound when the set is in chaos with lights still being set and hair n makeup doing their thing...... you know the drill. After 2 plus years w my Deva4 I have alot of things that I like about it, but the 10 sec pre roll and the sound quality of 24bit as compared to 16 bit dat, top my list. Telecine likes it better than the dat and tc Nagra tapes, or so they tell me. Hope all is well @ CSI. CrewC

Hey Tom, seasons greetings. 1500, 1200 $$$$ can buy some fun n useful goodies, so it makes sense to unload it. I haven't used my 2 hhb dat for over 2 years, but I also have a Nagra 4.2 and a stereo tc Nagra to keep the hhb's happy and somewhere for the dust to land on in my home studio, so what do I know. CrewC

Hey John, Seasons greetings, we, MD n I are in the crazy season with commercial work overload, so I'm not sure about seeing Glenn on this trip, I hope he leaves you some goodies for us to try out. In Glenns post and your repost you say wed Dec 12, but Wed. is the 13th. just wondering what day he'll be @ coffey sound between 1:00 n 3:00 12th or 13th? See you soon, CrewC

It doesn't really matter what we call it, as long as they call us for the gig. I vote 4 the old terms. I can and will use new terms, but the rest of the crew will be confused and never get it. CrewC

Hey Curleysound, I thought it was next week that Glenn was going to be in LA. 13 thru 15 or so. Call Coffey, they/he will know. CrewC

Must be getting cold back east, Glenn is comming out west. As of today, the 12th is my only day off until the 23rd so I hope to see you at Coffey Snd on that wed. Please bring a mix 12 as well, that I am really interested in, which is not to say that I'm not interested in the wireless or new software. Look foreward to seeing you again. CrewC

My guess is that most folks that read n post at Jeffs site read n post at RAMPS as well, but for those that didn't catch the good news, the theives that ripped off Coffey Sound have been caught. Every once and a while the system works. Congrats to all involved in solving the case. CrewC

Hey Coleman, I will check out "Bobby" for sure. Can't promise the big screen though I'll try. I have worked at the Ambassador, as any one who works in L.A. has, dozens of times, and as anyone who has will testifiy as to the vibe of the Ambassador. On the night Robert Kennedy was shot, I was a 17 yr old, living in Orange Co.. I watched TV until the results of the Calif. primary were in that night. Before I could get a glass of water n say good night to the folks, the news came back on and changed all my hope of that night into something south of shock. A shit load of positive went negetive that night for all of us, and history is still being written. I'm glad you and Ace and crew got to work on such a project no matter how hard it was, cause nothing good is easy. By the way, the Ambassador is as of tonight, 11/25, a dirt lot. CrewC

Give thanks for Family, Friends, and Community. Peace n Love to All. CrewC

Hey Mick, your POV about our local is and has been my POV for many years, mostly stemming from the meetings I did attend years ago. That and the many, many hours we put into our jobs, and the commitment to raising a family, I just can't muster the extra time it would require. I know that many, like Jeff put in the extra effort to make things better for all of us in 695, and I can only applaude there efforts in fighting a good fight against an old bitter system intrenched in the past, (my POV). The local could use more fresh blood and thinking like you, and I hope you do more in the future. Regards, CrewC

Wow. It's enough to make one's head spin. I should call you or Sally and send over some DVD's so the local is covered from some B.S. lawsuit. Hard to believe someone would do that, but then maybe not. Have a good day off, I'm working on a Weight Watchers commercial that the great still photog Albert Watson is directing, talk about a weird juxtaposition of talent and commerce, we are downtown next to the RH3 basecamp, so I know where you and Don are spending your days, and I hope not your nights. CrewC

Hey T.C. I didn't know you were the mixer on Steve's films, guess I didn't read the credits, or if I did I forgot them. You and all the crew members did top notch work. Nothing about all 3 of the films seemed amatureish at all, which with these type projects is often the case. It sounds like your 1st in line to do his films when he hits the big time and rightfully so, but I would be happy to get in line after you if your busy. Next time you speak with Steve, tell him to drop by Jeffs site and post some stuff, or check it out. CrewC