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    I'm Nelly GOURVES , I work for the CINELA company since nearly two years now.
    I used to be a sound mixer , i was also one of the fouding members of a sound equipments (for film, video and TV production) rental company that i left to join the CINELA company .

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  1. Ha ha, Glen, of course I understood that. It was à joke from me. The live performance is so nicely connected to the recording technique. Thank you for sharing this ! Philippe
  2. I saw this video yesterday, quickly. Let me remind those very nice colors and atmos. What a sound and emotion. Did you use a 24 tracks recorder ? Thank you for this work Glen. Crazy, you do not seem that old... Philippe
  3. Rain and wind protection

    A little information, based on our first experimentations few years ago. Looking for the lowest "sponge effect", the Kelly foam was the best material in comparison with many other ones. The only BIG risk is to apply the waterproof treatment (Nikwax) on the foam itself ! If you do that, the speedy water drops will go inside the foam cells very easily but will NOT go out !!! The Nikwax treatment is definitely made to be generously applied on the fabric under the foam. Philippe from Cinela
  4. MS Sennheiser MKH 30/40 windscreen?

    Dear Henrimic, David and everyone, If we succeed, the LEO may come in a new design...in a while. To be very simple: - it will not fit the MKH30+40/50 (definitely toooo big for the LEO). - there will be a version 2 x 20mm (For CMC + CCM8) - if we have enough requests, there could be a way to make a 25+19mm (MKH30+8050) ! Philippe
  5. Why go to NAB?

    Good question from Simon ! I have at least one little answer. Unfortunately I will not be at the NAB this year, but you'll find two prizes from Cinela at the Ramps/JW party: - A full Pianissimo windshield with many accessories - E-OSIX suspension for several mikes Have a great NAB ! P. Chenevez
  6. Odd mic noise problem with audio samples

    Martin, maybe Wandering Ear gives the exact reason (I don't know) but he's also convinced that rumbles may affect something in the input section. Generally, handheld microphones are compensated for proximity effect, so it naturally filters low frequencies...a lot. Pressure microphones (omnidirectional) also have a much lower sensitivity to low frequency rumbles. 4017C (or 4018, 4011) gives a lot of rumbles, but other well-known "pressure-gradient" mikes are sooo sensitive (CCM8, MKH8040/50) If you happen to make a test with B preamp or even C preamp + LC60, tell me about the result ! Philippe
  7. Odd mic noise problem with audio samples

    Martin, all I can say is: what I hear and know let me think about a hard rumble issue, but maybe I'm wrong of course. The 4017C is well known to provide a high level of rumble that needs to be filtered. About Nomad, I had a look at characteristics (documentation) and I only found values of fcy cutoff but no indication of slope. It's also very difficult to know if filters are close to inputs or far away on the chain. On my opinion, most robust microphone filters are very close to inputs, analog and high slope. A handheld mike doesn't have that high rumble level. What do you call the "Cub" ? Sanken one ? The CUB-01 has a real filtering below 100Hz. Another explanation could be the input impedance of the Nomad: around 1kohms which can be considered a bit low for some microphones in front of hard signals (rumbles). In fact I would be interested to know how your 4017+Nomad would behave with the B preamp. Or 4017C + LC60 + Nomad, or ???MiniCMIT ! Good luck in your investigations !
  8. Odd mic noise problem with audio samples

    Martin, what I can hear on your recordings let me definitely think about a pb related to low rumbles. I don't know so much about the Nomad but I wouldn't be surprised if the HP filters (low slope ??) may be far away after the input in the audio chain. The very first stage may be affected by these rumbles. You need to try with a high slope filter between the 4017C and the Nomad input (Schoeps LC60). The other way would be to try with a B preamp that integrates a hidden 50Hz +18dB/oct (not speaking about the ring filters). If possible you can also try with the new MiniCMIT which integrates a fantastic +24dB/oct 70Hz. Good luck !
  9. Odd mic noise problem with audio samples

    Martin, I totally understand that it is not a rumble noise, but you are speaking about a noise that occurs with two different mikes when you bump the body. This can be a case where the very high amplitude of the rumble can affect preamps, limiters, transmitters, etc... Let me join Philip's answer: does it occur with other systems ? any kind ?
  10. Odd mic noise problem with audio samples

    Martin, did you check out the very low frequency influence ? With bumps or simple movements, many microphones like the DPA 4017C generates these low rumbles that can affect different kinds of electronic circuits or even transmitters. In what equipment do you plug your mikes ? I would personally try a high slope filter like the Schoeps LC60 (or equivalent) between the mike and anything else ! Just to say....

    Dear Derek and VAS, I think you, both, simply express the very hard compromise everyone has to choose and accept. Derek: we would love to make a smaller basket, but efficiency may decrease very quickly as the size decrease. Let's see what we will do "smaller" in the future, but this will be another level of performance. VAS: very good idea to make this comparison. we'll certainly do it in the next measurement session. Anyway, the MiniCMIT may be considered a bit "lost" in the large Piano volume ! We, manufacturers, are completely stressed between size, weight and efficiency !
  12. Dear users, the awaited Schoeps MiniCMIT is there...and fits perfectly in the PIANISSIMO windshield ! Here are the links to appreciate the wind test comparison with the well known CMIT in PIANO: www.facebook.com/pages/Cinela/1471314373154513 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpeDd-Bz-Yk Good luck for this new Blue ! P.Chenevez CINELA
  13. Actual Experience- Super CMIT- cicadas.... ?

    ...not to forget that the SuperCMIT process is a very specific algorithm using two signals (the main capsule and the extra rear one). The goal is first to cancel the diffuse field (opposed to the direct one) which is totally not the concept of the DNS-2 ! A large group of far away cicadas can effectively create such a diffuse field...but cicadas are cicadas. Just remember the horrible vuvuzelas in South Africa world football cup: the very first 50 SuperCMIT microphones were very promising...but vuvuzelas are vuvuzelas !
  14. Thanks Tyler Wade

    Tyler, you'll miss us. What a great story with our young company Cinela. You were one of the first, 10 years ago. Our session in Toronto (2013) has been a wonderful experience. Thank you. Many wishes for your new job and life ! Philippe and Nelly
  15. Stolen equipment

    Hi everyone, specially from LA or around. if someone can help about this stolen equipment (full list in the PDF attached). It's a complete sound cart ! it occured during the night 2nd/3rd september in the Los Angeles area... Thank you for our friend sound mixer "Madone" and our partner company DC AUDIO in Paris (rental). Philippe 1 MULTICOUPLER OCTOPACK + ANTENNA ALP 650 # 10221/951-754 1 RF receiver AUDIO LTD DX # 808605 1/2 1 RF receiver AUDIO LTD DX # 014083 2 RF transmitters SENNHEISER SK 2000 # SK-123440 1 recorder ZAXCOM DEVA 5.8 # 20214 1 accessory for Audio Ltd: VDB L-48V 1 lithium Battery IDX NPS/N 2 Time Code Generator DENECKE SB-T # SB-TO493/94 4 Receivers kit WISYCOM MCR42 # 02451747/45/40/49 1 Wind screen SCHOEPS B20/W20 1 Mixer SONOSAX SX ST8D # 4330044 1 RF receiver AUDIO LTD DX # 911428-5/6 1 Microphone SENNHEISER MKH60 # 27113 1 Microphone BEYERDINAMIC M88 # 35702 1 power stationDCA PMI # P105 1 Battery DCA 12V-12A S/N 2 Microphones SCHOEPS CMIT # 3906 & 1746 3 Mikes SCHOEPS CMC 6 # 16929-17921-24068 1 Mike SCHOEPS CMC 6 # 39064 2 Capsules SCHOEPS MK4 & MK41 # 56681 & 80487 2 capsules SCHOEPS MK4 # 64425-70603 1 capsule SCHOEPS MK41 # 94655 1 capsule microphone DANISH PRO AUDIO # DPA 4080 S/N 1 SENNEHEISER headset HD 25 1 Windscreen SCHOEPS B20/W20 1 Windscreen CINELA ALBERT TRI-CCM 1 Windscreen SCHOEPS B5D ("Pavarotti") 1 DCA blue preamp 1 Magic arm Manfrotto 1 Trolley DCA 1 Kit of cables MissingSoundEquipment.pdf