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Sorry to be absent so long. I am very happy to be back on this lovely forum.

JBond, I agree with your post, but I think that during 1960 more than 250 have been manufactured for the reason why RAI order 100 units. So to my opinion, it would be closer to 400 than 250... but today nobody can say. I have some other pieces aside. For NAGRA III is was easy, only 2 different type : radio or cinema/tv. For NAGRA IV and 4 it is another story. Too much models have been designed... Some NAGRA IV and 4 plus lot of accessories like QGB, mixer, preamp, synchroniser, IV S music and IV S film, IV SJ, SN and SNST, IS and NAGRA E red and blue (blue version for Radio France), a VPR5 which is a very nice product and a NAGRA T AUDIO fantastic machine. More recently ( more than 10 years ago) I bought a NAGRA V that I still used very often and a NAGRA VI I use... let say, nearly every day. Apart NAGRA I have some other portable devices like UHER 4000, 4200, 4400 and 1200 pilot version. I of course I own some STELLAVOX SP 7 and SP 8 a SONY Professional EM 2-NS and a military TELEFUNKEN portable recorder. Well portable recorder is something like a passion.

Hello, sorry to let you wait a while. I have another N III which causes problem with your list, it is the number 65 7562 Here is the list of Nagra III I own. In fact, I suspect some problem in numbering some years ago. I had contact KUDELSKI factory in order to obtain more information on the N III manufactured. They answer : forget it, all the list was made by hand and the paper have been archived somewhere or destroyed ! But the numbering is quite curious sometime and this is the reason why I made an extended list with the complete number. At the beginning there was no pilot and all Nagra III was mainly used by radio network. The number begins by B - Why B ? it seems that nobody knows today why the number begins by a B ! Then in 1962 the pilot version appears and as the system was called NEOPILOT by KUDELSKI it is quite easy to understand why they are named NP. Until 1966 the 2 versions exist : B for radio and NP for cinema/TV. But in 1965 on some item an H appears after the number. What does that mean ? Nobody give me an explanation for this H. After 66 it becomes more complicated - NPO - HPO - PHO - BHO - BH... What is sure is that all number beginning by B is originally a radio model even if it has been modified to pilot later and PXX number are for pilot. The number conflict appears for year 65/66 At a time I was suspecting a double numbering - one for pilot and a second one for radio but it is not possible. Here is the list of my NAGRA III nd some pictures of N III. Enjoy and excuse my poor English. NAGRA III List.pdf Well maybe a pdf file is not very convenient Here is the list of my NAGRA III 1958 34 - 36 1959 222 1960 408 - 599 1961 1080 - 2010 1962 2176 - 2328 - 2573 1963 2907 - 3129 - 3178 - 3975 1964 4978 - 5334 1965 6053 - 7562 - 7623 1966 7605 - 8021 - 8366 1967 9678 - 9993 1968 12527 - 13279 - 13928 - 13397 Detailed number list 1958 B 5834 B 5836 1959 B 59222 1960 B 60 408 B 60 599 1961 B 61 1080 B 61 2010 1962 NP 62 2176 H NP 62 2328 BH 62 2573 1963 B 63 2907 NP 63 3129 B 63 3178 NP 63 3975 1964 B 64 4978 NP 64 5334 H 1965 NP 65 6053 H NP 65 7562 H NP 65 7623 1966 NPO H 66 7605 HPO 66 8021 PHO 66 8366 1967 PHO 67 9678 BHO 67 9993 1968 PHO 68 12527 PHO 68 13279 BH 68 13928 PHO 68 13397 B = Radio - NP & PHO = Pilot - if nothing else specified 1962 BH 62 25 73 Radio model modified > Pilot 1963 B 63 2907 Radio model modified > Pilot B 63 3178 = Radio 1964 B 64 4978 = Radio model 1967 BHO 67 9993 = Radio model 1968 BH 68 13928 = Radio model Radio model : No pilot head - no pilot indicator on front I made a sort of history of NAGRA III from 1958 to 1968. I try to point out the differences and upgrades. The first NAGRA III from 58 and 59 had a complete different sub chassis. NAGRA III – From 1958 to 1968 I – Case and Chassis There is an aluminum main chassis housing all the equipment : Head, roller, capstan… This main chassis is assembled to a sub-chassis screwed to the case by a hinge to facilitate the opening of the recorder. A second hinge is used for the transparent lid. In order to secure the equipment, a synthetic rubber gasket is inserted in the assembly between the main and sub chassis. Before 1960 the sub-chassis is a simple aluminum belt hooping the main chassis. Angle bars are screwed to the main chassis in order to assemble to the sub-chassis. The gasket is situated all around between the main and sub chassis. After 1960 the sub-chassis is a complete machined frame directly screwed to the main chassis with a flat gasket. NAGRA III differences and upgrades. 1958 and 1959 models are very similar except the paint and the microphone cannon plug which is factory made on early model. The 1958 model have a different paint darker than the light grey used since 1959. Until 62 the recorder are manufactured in PRILLY LAUSANNE The lid is flat. Stroboscope rollers are drilled. Push button for fast-forward very small Housing of the head is particular and is used to position the tape correctly without any other tape guide. The erase head is narrow. Opposite to the hinge the lock is made of 2 aluminum parts assembled by a screw. The monitoring output plug is narrower than common electric plug in EU. The motor equipped with a tachometric wheel is not housed in case. 1960 : Tape guides appear and the heads are positioned to reserve room for a future pilot head. Stroboscope rollers have their definite shape. Push button for fast-forward become large The assembly parts opposite to the hinge become a simple square part of aluminum 1961 : More than thousand NAGRA III have already been manufactured. Little modification – on front plate monitoring output adopts electric plug spacing. Engraving on potentiometer adjustment bar become larger. 1962 : The manufacture moves to PAUDEX VAUD The year of pilot Fourth head appears with the pilot signal indicator on the front plate. Push button without any marking appears and is able to generate a tone 1964 : A/B button appears 1965 : Erase head changes for ferrite 1968 : New modulometer for 1968 and late 1967 model. 1968 the last year of NAGRA III

Hello, I have just joined your community and I appreciate all the information about NAGRA Recorders. Regarding the JBond communication of December 2016, I can provide more information regarding NAGRA III serial number. I collect NAGRA equipment and I have a small collection. I have no NAGRA I nor II, my collection begins with NAGRA III. The oldest is the NAGRA III 58 34. The NAGRA III have been manufactured from 58 to 68. If the general look have been maintained during these 11 years, there are a lot of modification from one model to another. Erase head, front plate, case lock, Vu meter, A/B, Tone, and etc. but from the beginning there was room enough to put a fourth head for pilot, even if Kudelski loose a lot of time before introducing the Pilot in 62. NAGRA III Serial numbers : I have a NAGRA III 59 222, which means that the 58 serial stops around 220 items. The next one I have is the B 60 408. So we can imagine that year 59 begins from number around 221 to approx. 400. Something like 180 units manufactured in 59. 1960 Roma Olympic games, 480 units have been manufactured among them 100 was ordered by RAI, Italian state radio.