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  1. Quick index to select posts 42 Jeff’s movie list 307 Nixon Resigns Picture 364 CIA the Second Recorder 455 Nagra II Video 146 Meet Jeff (Youtube) 319 The JBR updated Feb 2018 373 The Nagra Story, updated Feb 2018 478 The Third Covert recorder 151 My VPR-5 325 My Nagra Source 400 The Nagra SN (Copy ) 479 The 1966 Covert recording 220 A different kind of Soundman 333 A Special Gift 404 There’s only One, Nagra I 480 The Fourth Recorder 225 What I found out about the Nagra I 335 The DH Difference 405 The Vienna Collection 482 Finally Fifth and Final Recorder 232 Conversation with Stefan Kudelski 337 The Yellow Recorder 422 An appropriate answer 430 What happened to - Serie Noir? 252 The First Nagra III 347 CIA issued Recorder 425 Early Nagra SN serial #'s 363 Dating & "NEW" Reverse Record 268 The Sony and the Telefunken 906 The Nagra SN Series - from Prototype to Production 1960- 1970 t0 1999 576 The Nagra IS Differences by dela ============================================================================================================= My name is Bond, Joseph Bond. I collect tape recorders, yes, "Tape" recorders, from toys to spy to professional movie recorders of the past. Some of you know me as undercover. Today I'm JBOND I’m interested in this site and your profession because many of you recorded many great movies on the Nagra recorders I have in my collection. Reading a thread earlier about the movie The Shining, I’m sure that was recorded on a Nagra. Which one, anybody knows? I want to keep those stories alive before they are gone forever. These were the recorders many of you started with, primitive by today's recording standards, yet still, some of the greatest movies ever made were recorded on these recorders. I'm hoping, if I supply the pictures it will jog one's memory of the good and bad days using these recorders and some will supply the historical stories to go with them, stores that only the people that used them know, Stories that only you guys can share. Stories about, I hated using them, loved using them, they were a pain in the ass to use, to the changing out the tape in time, dropping the tape while everyone waited for you etc. dropped it off the top of a building recording such and such movie. We all saw the movies anything happen in a particular movie using a particular Nagra recorder that you can share? Whats your vintage Nagra story? What movie did you record with your Nagra and which machine did you record it on. Or what girl, actor or actress kept your attention while your tape spooled under the lid? The following pages are the Nagra stories sound men will never tell. Photos marked with RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner.Photos marked with RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner.
  2. Maybe this will help explain the Nagra SN over the years. The Nagra SN Series - from Prototype to Production, 1960 - 1970 to 1999 by RJW Size including controls - (WHL) 4 X 1 x 5 3/4 inches Weight - 1.3 lbs Diameter reels - 2 5/8 inch Tape width - 1/8 inch Tape speed SNN 3 3/4 ips , SNS 15/16 , SNST 15/16 SNST-R 3 3/4 stereo Battery life - 5.5 hours The Nagra SN is one of the most well-known miniature covert recorders in history. Circa 1960, the first prototype SN was constructed by Stefan Kudelski, his company, Nagra Kudelski. Nagra started making tape recorders back in the early 50s. This miniature recorder was a very different project from his other larger portable recorders already in production. The SN prototype was one of a kind; no other units were ever produced. At the time, components for such a small, high-quality recorder were not reliable for what Kudelski had in mind. Further development of the prototype SN was put on hold for ten years. The actual production began in 1970, and the first units sold were in 1971. (15) The SN was an enormous success throughout the world and used mostly by government agencies on both sides. Since the recorders were such expensive items, governments were just about the only ones who could afford them in any quantity. The small private investigator and others usually could not afford this type of recorder. Later sales expanded to law enforcement. The SN became known as somewhat of a famous secret spy recorder with a mysterious past, never told in any detail. Stories were told throughout the years of a secret unknown spy recorder with early use by the U.S. Government throughout the 1960s. This has never been substantiated with any fact. The SN is a beautifully built machine, a small, thin, reliable, one channel miniature tape recorder. The rugged recorder chassis was milled out of a solid block of aluminum alloy and assembled with 7 miniature modular plug-in circuit boards and powered by just two penlight batteries for 5 1/2 hours of use. The Nagra SN miniature recorder was created to satisfy the requirements of covert recording during the 1970s. The SN became the machine of choice for many security agencies around the world. It was like no other miniature recorder the world has ever seen. The first units were painted with a flat gray paint with no Nagra name or any other markings on the recorder as most early covert spy recorders were nameless. When asked why the first SN did not carry the Nagra name, a spokesman for Nagra said it was due to the factory understanding of silk-screening. It wasn't until two years later in 1973 that the finish on the recorder started to change. That flat gray finish was now a smoother semi-gloss gray paint. The Nagra SN name was now beautifully silk screened in red lettering on the tape deck’s upper right-hand corner, with the operation and tape path instructions on the reel deck and lid. This new finish only lasted a short time before the finish changed again. No longer was the housing of the SN painted. Instead, Nagra utilized an anodized aluminum finish, topped with a thin undetectable hard protective transparent coating. These early finishes varied slightly in the aluminum color. Each SN was presented with the utmost attention to detail, from the highly mirror polished tape deck screws to a jeweled VU meter, the SN just screamed high quality. Kudelski, the leading manufacturer of sound recorders for the movie industry during this time, also made it so the small SN, a capable body worn recorder, would be able to pick up the actor's voices more clearly and sync with the movie equipment, using the higher speed SNN. The SN was featured in numerous motion pictures both on-camera and as a production tool. The use of the cinema body recorder did not last too long, as wireless microphones became less expensive and better sounding and they replaced the need for the body recorder in motion pictures. The Nagra SN's primary use was always a covert tape recorder. In 1977, another significant SN development designed principally for covert operations was a slow speed, two-channel stereo model developed for the FBI called the SNST. This model was used for quite some time without any information about it released to the public. Only government agencies, not even law enforcement, knew of them at first. The Nagra SNST miniature recorders were categorized by the U.S. Department of Justice to be Interception of Communication Devices (IOC). The IOC statutes make it illegal to own, use, train and/or educate non-law enforcement personnel to use this equipment. Through the early 70s to 1999, there were four different models of the SNs. There may have been some insignificant custom versions since Kudelski worked with the individual customer's needs. The four primary models are: 1970: Nagra SNN - Mono full-track recording (3.3/4 - 1 7/8 ips) 1972: Nagra SNS - Mono half-track recording (1 7/8 ips - 15/16 ips) 1977: Nagra SNST - Stereo version (1 7/8 ips - 15/16 ips) 1999: Nagra SNST-R - HiFi version of the SNST (3.3/4 ips) All built with the same size/weight dimensions, etc., the only differences were in the circuitry of the different models. The Nagra SN series was extensively used by many countries all over the world since 1971. Today, accurate total production numbers are not known.
  3. I hate to bring this up but Nagra showed a Nagra SNST-R in their latest video about their Nagra SN shown at the top of this page, the SNST-R was the last and most advanced Nagra SN that was released in 1999, 29 years after the first Nagra SN. If they are talking about the first Nagra SN released in 1970 why not show a 1970 Nagra SN. ( No Name, No silkscreening ) Sorry, I just want to keep the Nagra SN story correct.
  4. If not for his last sentence I would say Mr Muricy just made a mistake between using 1984 and 1994 as this first quote implies. so Mr Muricy came to the US in 1984 to shoot … in 1994 Ok, a clear mistake, but then he adds this last statement. I solved the great Nagra SN mystery, but this I have been stumped. 😎
  5. Nagra posted a series of YouTube videos about their recorders in its museum on their Facebook page. These videos seem to clear up some long unanswered questions. Here is the one on the famous Nagra SN stating Kennedy asked for it “for the US Army” but not released until the end of the 60’s So - the end of the sixties means not in the sixties and certainly not in 1965... In other words Dec1970 or 1971 Sounds like something you may have read before on “Jwsound Nagra stories”.😎
  6. This showed up on my facebook page 4 minutes ago. You're seeing posts from NAGRA AUDIO first. The first portable recorder in the world - built by Stefan Kudelski - released in 1951 Rare interview of Auguste Piccard by Stefan Kudelski. https://www.facebook.com/nagraaudio/videos/1943547572356096/ Looks like Nagra set that story straight, now, no misunderstanding what the Nagra I is. Also added some new information, only 10 - 12 units made. Very nice.
  7. (Better this than none) That may be Nagra's thinking also. They probably know 99% would never know. Or it was just an oversight.
  8. Its too bad they don’t have someone who knows the history of Nagra and would take the time to produce a short film with the correct information. This picture shows a Nagra II; the Nagra I never had a meter or direct center hold down reel nuts. This picture does not belong in the film at all because they never mention the Nagra II, why show it as a Nagra I But here it's showed in all its glory as his prized invention, the Nagra I These next two pictures do show the Nagra I, all they had to do was not show the Nagra II, especially showing it first like they did! I guess they feel no one would know the difference, so it doesn’t matter which picture they use. Or they consider the Nagra I or II are the first Nagra's ever made? Same here below in this next picture and caption, it doesn't matter if it's correct or not who would know the difference? Just run with it. Can we believe anything since the obvious miss representation that seems to show up in any story written about Nagra past and present day? The Nagra SN went to the moon In the Apollo mission but not in 1969, they confuse the first moon landing date with the SN going to the moon, kind of misleading. The Apollo Program 1963-1972 They landed on the moon 2 times in 1971 and two times in 1972 I would suspect the SN went to the moon after it was developed not before. The real story is here on post ; #373 you can believe it or not.
  9. Good work noticing that detail, MarceauFilm I wonder why he looks like he rewinding the Nagra II, as she holds the microphone in front of the person talking into it. It would be the other larger crank on the side to windup the motor. Messed up that interview. I'll bet that was just a pose for the picture, everyone just acted like they were doing something.
  10. This posted on Nagra Facebook today with a link to the local 695 magazine. René Laflamme 6 hrs · Wow this is amazing, here the original tape of Stefan Kudelski inventor of the first portable professional recorder, the Nagra. This recording is from 1953 when Auguste Piccard took the Nagra I with him on his record-breaking deep-sea dive in the bathyscaphe Trieste. The sound of the recording is a real time travel. https://magazine.local695.com/…/the-nagra-recorder-stefan-k… About the Bathyscaphe: https://youtu.be/AOfS-tzxZAs
  11. I saw the DR on the tents and for some reason it reminded me of the Nagra IS and Dela… Oh how we age…
  12. It is "gorgeous" the way Nagra designed the famous SN recorder with seven removable plug in modules, each held in by only a couple of small brass screws. The one shot hastily taken picture, with parts of it out of focus is disappointing.
  13. Dela, I believe the jack that Tunes is talking about is not on the SNST, even though the SNST is in the picture, Its the jack on my red 1973 SNS. Tunes asked me and I didn't know what the jack was for. I just took the board off and the jack is wired to the proprietary SN microphone input. I assume this is so you can use a normal 1/8 microphone jack that was found on a pen or watch microphone.
  14. Maybe it will become a fad, You have to be very into Nagra to wear this out in public or around the house for that matter. https://weadmire.net/product/nagra-noire-serie-all-over-t-shirt-by-yukio-miyamoto/
  15. This listed on eBay , reminds me of Dela's collection, I see why he collects them, look at that custom DR radio silkscreen. You have to admit the Nagra IS is a sweet recorder. You will find Dela's IS collection on post 576 page 24 Or just go to the post index on page 1 and click on Dela 576
  16. Thank you, daniel That's a great story and is just the kind of story I was looking for to be told when I started this thread back in January 2015. I wanted it to be about untold stories using Nagra tape recorders in your profession that only soundmen knew about. The original title of this thread was Nagra Stories only soundmen can tell. There were others on here that told stories over the last three years and I appreciated their stories also. Wow, so you were on the ship for a month? God, it seems so primitive using tape reels in your profession today. I can see you now hanging on and trying to change the reels on an SN. The locking reel hubs unlike a Nagra III or IVS really need two hands as the reel lock would make it impossible to do one-handed so I can see you now trying to do that and keep yourself upright on a rolling ship. I can also imagine how you must have felt not wanting to drop a reel to watch it roll down along the deck leaving a 50 ft tape trail behind, especially with a crew as you explained that did not make you feel at all comfortable. You got the gig over a more experienced soundman, so I guess the pressure was on you to show your best. I appreciate your taking the time to tell your story and hope it'll inspire others to tell theirs. After all, when I started this thread I wanted it to be about Nagra stories that only a soundmen could tell. It would've been nice if the guy had sold you the SN. If I were you, I would look for an SN as you have a great memory to go with it.
  17. Thanks JonG, I appreciate it. Its almost hard to believe that Nagra would take all the time and money to come up with this CES 2018 advertisement / web page below in the link, showing 65 years of awards, listing all their achievements of the past 65 years and get the early history so wrong. 2018 CES Nagra http://www.nagraaudio-hd.com/history.html 1st. They show a Nagra II and call it the 1951 Nagra I (even though they have a real Nagra I ). Stefan Kudelski is holding the Nagra I in the picture before, remember the off set reel nuts. 2nd. Look at the picture of the so-called 1970 Nagra “SNST”. They show a picture of a late model black silkscreen Nagra SN, not a 1970 plain no name Nagra SN (even though they have one) but a black silkscreened late model SN and mistakenly call it a 1970 SNST. The SNST did not get developed until seven years later in 1977. 3rd The1957 Nagra III which should say “1958”. (there is no 1957 Nagra III) They show a later pilot model Nagra III and call it a 1957. The pilot model was not developed until 1962. I guess that’s what happens when there was so much miss information over the years, over and over again. The current people at Nagra may not know what’s real or what’s not. Now its clear to see how the Nagra SN story got so messed up over the years. Nagra Stories #373
  18. Some early Covert Recorder beauty shots, Prototype reel over reel developed in 1955, finally completed and first sold in 1959 only to become obsolete. All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. The CIA Type 1, "Resin Recorder", circa 1956-57, group pose. First known 2 channel unit lower left. First auto reverse record upper right. First instant erase (self magnetic destruct) tape. The CIA TYPE 2, "Edwards Model 30 Recorder", circa 1960-62. White Nylon reels thought to keep the heat build up to a minimum. The CIA Type 3, UMY-25 recorder, circa 1965-66 - the first to use IC chips, the two chips equivalent to 26 transistors. Type 4, EDI Recorder, Circa 1967-68 first to become public in 1967 and the reason for the name on the recorder. TYPE 5, Alpha One, circa 1970-71. The most advanced recorder of this type, after a 15-year span. MC-2 Miniature Recorder, ("Cigarette Pack Recorder"), circa 1971, known to be used by the FBI. Evershed T704 ("Yellow Recorder"), circa 1973 The Nagra SN Series cosmetic differences - 1970 to 1999. Yes, I know I'm missing a head cover. These are expensive I'm lucky to have it . The Nagra SN recorder will become the most desirable and sought after reel to reel recorders ever made… mark my words. Right to left, 1st, from 1970 Flat gray paint no silkscreen. 2nd, 1973 low gloss gray paint with red silkscreen. 3rd,1974 to 77 dark anodized aluminum in black and some in red silkscreen. 4th In bright anodized aluminum with black silkscreen. The Nagra JBR, 1984. The most advanced analog recording system ever produced at this size. Swiss made Stereo Microcassette covert recorder system used after the JBR and SNST "No controls"; special pen to operate. Not for public use. The Pearlcorder ZUIKO, first Microcassette recorder 1969, Apollo age modular system. All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner.
  19. No one on Jwsound remembers using a Nagra SN in their career of recording movie sound? Not even one experience using the Nagra SN as a movie sound recorder? How can this be?
  20. Thanks Tunes, I recently found this out and purchased a copy of the 1970 American Cinematographer Magazine which has the first write-up of the 1970 Nagra SN. The article seems to suggest the first 1970 SN was specially developed for the movie industry. Shown below is my picture of the 1970 style SN with the Dec 1970 American Cinematographer Magazine article in the background. Full credit for the magazine in my picture goes to American Cinematographer Magazine. It’s an excellent and complete first write up of the NEW Nagra SN and written in great detail. Most all of the necessary accessories were available at the time the recorder was released for the movie industry in 1970/71. That makes a lot of sense since Nagra / Kudelski by 1970 was heavily invested in the movie industry and apparently not so much in the secret spy recorder business. There has never been a scrap of evidence that any Nagra SN was utilized for any reason before 1970. Was the first actual SN developed in 1970 for the movie industry and not the spy industry? It's hard to say for sure; the first SN seemed to fit the movie industry more at the time according to this article. The 1970 SN movie recorder was full track 1 7/8 and 3 3/4 for sound quality. It is possible, Nagra thought at the time 1 7/8 would also be good for covert use, 1 7/8 speed certainly would be useless for actors voices. So one dual-use recorder with two-speed choices depending on the application was developed in 1970 and first sold in 1971. Its possible the SN after being used in the field as a covert recorder worldwide, (It was never meant to be a U. S. use only recorder) suggestions were made that a longer running recorder was needed. In September of 1971 the first SN- Slow speed recorder was manufactured with the serial number 83. (per Nagra email) The September 1971 SNS was 1 7/8 and 15/16 tape speed and 1/2 track so both sides of the tape could be used. The first SN used in the movie industry looked precisely like this 1972 Slow speed model below serial number 811, No silkscreen just a plain gray recorder. Does anyone remember using this recorder in 1971 or later recording movie sound? The first SN developed in 1970 was for both the movie industry and to be used covertly worldwide. The SNS was developed a year later more specifically for covert use only. The SNS in September 1971 was truly the first "meant for covert use" recorder Nagra made. From there, they started their line of covert use only recorders with the SNST, JBR, etc. Can anyone share any known information about using the Nagra SN as a body microphone recorder for the movie industry? Was it extensively used and popular? Or hardly used? I know we talked about this briefly before, but I don't know where. I do not know anything about how it was used or how long in the movie industry. Frankly, I always thought the SN was used much later in the movie business and not released right from the start for movie use. I also thought it was released just a little too late and wireless microphones soon filled the sound problem with the actor's voices. Can anyone say for sure if they know of an actor/ actress that first used the Nagra SN on their person? Or the first movie to use the SN that would have been in 1971?
  21. This updated story of the Nagra JBR has some new information that only a handful of people have known about. The Nagra JBR, 1984 by RJW The Nagra JBR (Junior Body Recorder) was perhaps the most needed covert recorder advancement of the time when it was introduced secretly to the FBI in 1984. It was a joint venture between Nagra and the FBI and 2 other three-letter agencies of the U.S. The aging SNST was still in use at the time and still very popular, but everyone "in the know” knew how to detect someone using the SNST. The SNST was large and cumbersome for one to wear secretly on their person. Not to mention the person on the other end of the conversation most likely was using an advanced tape recorder detector of that time. A smaller-sized harder to detect recorder was needed so Nagra, with the help of James B. Reames* of the FBI, developed this smaller, harder to detect covert recorder, possibly the most secret recorder ever contracted. * James B. Reames 1958-1990 Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington, D.C. Responsible for the analyses of audio tapes to improve intelligibility, to identify non-voice signals, and to determine authenticity of magnetic tape recordings submitted by Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies. Also involved with the FBI’s Tape Enhancement Laboratory, Tape Recording Capability, Research and Development Activities, Technical Security Counter measures programs and Tempest Programs. The project was kept highly secret, even to the people who would eventually be the ones using the new JBR, for reasons to also weed out any bad characters even within the government agencies themselves. The recorder could now be used to expose people who knew how to detect the SNST and other recorders of the time. They certainly would not be suspecting the new hard to detect JBR. “The design and manufacture of the recorder has been so secret and important to the FBI (and two other unnamed government agencies who are supposedly the sole users of the recorder) that any public availability of information on the recorder would ‘’make the machine extinct,'according to an employee of Nagra who refused to provide any details on the recorder in a telephone interview." (1) . All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. The complete project was spelled out from the beginning, the JBR recorder along with the advanced universal playback unit called the PU-1. The proposed PU-1 was designated to be a “Playback Universal Unit” to be able to play back the SNST reel tapes and a JBR cassette (a multipurpose unit). The JBR and Playback unit was very advanced technology at the time that was never realized before in a recorder of this size. Since the JBR recorder was easier to develop, the JBR and the playback unit were not ready at the same time. Due to time restraints, the JBR was delivered to the FBI without any means to play back the recording. As the JBR recorder started to be used in the field, the playback unit was still in development. There were many delays as this “new” technology was being developed. The center control track on the JBR was to speed correct the tape since it didn’t have a pinch wheel. The speed of the tape and motion while worn were not going to be an issue because of the control track. Everything was thoroughly thought out in advance, except for the delays. The customer now had “ evidence tapes” and no way to reproduce them, due to the lack of any available playback device. A mechanical adapter was developed: Called the CST to work in conjunction with a common SNST to play back the recorded JBR cassette. This adapter was one thing that was not in the original plans, but it was the best way at the time to play back the recorded JBR tapes while the advanced playback unit was being developed. This was not a cheaply put together adapter. It was made in the same fine quality like any other Nagra product. It's almost as if Nagra knew it was going to be awhile before the “PU1” would be ready. A couple of issues emerged: The tapes did not have any speed correction since the SNST host machine didn't have the capabilities to read the control track. Because of the speed issues and Wow & Flutter, the customers started questioning the quality of JBR recordings. Of course, it wasn't fair since the whole concept hadn't been realized yet. No PU-1 or PS-1. A control track filter SCTF was developed to remove the control track tone from the audio during playback. No one wanted to hear the high-frequency tone mixed in with the audio evidence. If not for that filter, the SNST would otherwise reproduce the constant control track tone. All of these things were stop-gap measures to calm the customer (FBI). The other main flaw in the mechanical adapter was its hold-back tension. It was so high, it damaged the tapes when used. With a few gear changes, they got it to work, sort of. (2) The CST adapter was made utilizing a Nagra SN housing: The SNST would slide on top of the SN housing and lock securely in place, and the folding arm would swing out and hold the JBR cassette also locked securely. Underneath the cassette was a fold-out rewind crank like on the Nagra SN for manually rewinding the JBR cassette. It was very well built. Nothing speaks vintage Miniature Covert Recorder like this setup in playing back the recorded evidence tape. It just goes to show in this clandestine world, you gotta do what you gotta do. The folded CST unit Bottom side with the manual SN rewind crank, this is also used to remove any slack in the tape. All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. The JBR cassette mounting plate swings open and locks, the SNST slides and locks into place. All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. Add the DSP playback amp and this was the first playback setup before the Control Track Filter was developed. You can see it was a continuous work in progress to satisfy a growing impatient customer. All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. I was going to post a scan of the instructions for the Control Track Filter, but because of a schematic on the back side stamped “do not reproduce” I am not going to post any parts of the original document at all. The drawing is dated Oct 1985 The Control Track Filter is just a small box that fits between the SNST and the DSP playback amp and the ASN power pack. So the CST adapter was used without the Control Track Filter for almost a year before the filter was developed. The “make-do” playback required these five items from the original Nagra document: ASN Power pack, SNST recorder, DSP playback amp, CST mechanical adapter and the SCTF Control Track Filter. (3) Together they completed the setup required to play back JBR tapes in its early years. This was the only means available to play back a recorded JBR tape for two years. The PU-1 dual use playback unit that plans called for an SNST and JBR combination unit was scrapped and never realized. Either Nagra or the FBI dropped the PU-1 for whatever unknown reason. In 1986, the PS-1 playback unit as we know today was finally delivered to the FBI for the first time since the 1984 delivery of the Junior Body Recorder - the full potential of the JBR system was finally realized. The harder to detect recorder was only one part, but the advancements made in the PS-1’s capability in enhancing the reproduced playback sound was just amazing. The JBR - measuring only 4½” by 2½ - with the PS-1 playback system was the smallest, most advanced analog recorder system ever produced. One of the hardest stumbling blocks of using past covert analog recorders, including the SNST, was the ability to capture clear quality evidence recordings consistently. This was now made easier thanks to the highly adjustable JBR playback system of the mid-eighties. It was all so secret and no one could ever speak about this advancement in reproducing analog recordings. Of course, digital soon took over, and another Covert Recorder quietly and without fanfare goes down in history. All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. Original Nagra JBR advertising poster showing a JBR beauty shot, with the cassette cover removed to show off Nagra’s reel to reel covert recorder roots This extremely rare poster from 1990 was meant to be used for advertising the JBR at Intelligence trade shows, but its use was short lived as Nagra was informed not to advertise the JBR. The reason was stated to me below. As I advised, xxxxx xxxxxx told me that Nagra New York received a letter from the FBI advising that these recorders were an Interception of Communication (IOC) device and if Nagra continued to advertise these units, there could be legal percussions. I don’t think Nagra advertised the recorders in the USA again. (4) "The Nagra JBR along with the SNST miniature recorders were categorized by the U.S. Department of Justice to be Interception of Communication Devices (IOC).” “The IOC statutes make it illegal to own, use, train and/ or educate non-law enforcement personnel to use this equipment.” (4) All photos marked RJW are copyrighted. Any use other than private with or without the RJW watermark is strictly forbidden, without written permission from the owner. Sources for the Nagra JBR 1) From - Full Disclosure Newspaper, Libertyville, Illinois (USA) 1991 2) Anonymous former Nagra employee 3) SCTF instruction manual. 4) Anonymous intelligence source.
  22. Thank you, yes, of course, the SNST-R (typo) It also could be, Philips, a maker of "recording tape" was asked by Kudelski (maker of "tape recorders") to develop a smaller size tape, which might have led Phillips to develop the first cassette in 1963, who knows? I did not research or look into Phillips. I understand what you are saying, that maybe the Prototype was made in 1965 instead of 1960 because the 1/8 cassette tape was developed in 1963. I don't believe that to be the case.
  23. The prototype dates back to 1960 The Nagra SN dates back to 1970 Repost your clapper boxes alone so we can learn more about them.
  24. I'm glad to see they still bring top dollar, I guess I got a good deal on mine.
  25. Hi Vienna Whoever made it certainly tried to make it match a Nagra III But the control knobs, the metal rings around the knobs and even the radius of the corners of the case tells me it's nothing Nagra did.. Most likely it was made to sit under and match a Nagra III. I would think finding a schematic would be about as hard as finding another one of those. What does the top look like?