LC21 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Has anyone EVER used a CCM41 withOUT rolling the bass off? If no, how much did you have to cut out? Mic is at its 3rd week of usage from purchase and the need for an LP just came now, it got so sensitive all of a sudden. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I roll mine off at the mixer. Works great with a good shock mount. Can't roll off at the mixer? (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC21 Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 working with a 788 so rolloff pretty accurate. Shockmount is a lyre. How much do you cut off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I never roll mine off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I roll off at 12 O'clock at the 552. Perhaps you could invest in a tac!t if the problem persists! (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt McGowin Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I do not think your schoeps mic all of a sudden decided to have a sensitivity change unless you were going from an extreme change in temp/humidity/altitude very quickly. the voice level being projected and the space in which it is being projected usually dictates the amount of roll off needed. Take into consideration signal to noise ratio and proximity effect.Wind noise, traffic noise, air conditioning noise, etc. I usually set my roll off to 80 hz or more on the 788 with a cmc6mk41, on a good shockmount, for interiors. Post can roll off more if needed in most circumstances. Some shotgun mics have built in filter switch, and the schoeps cmc has an optional cut-1 (with 3 selectable cut ranges) for cutting the low freqs before it reaches the mic pre. Rolling off at the mic Is generally better because the low freqs are taken out before it enters the mic pre stage.Which, of course creates a better sonic quality overall. MTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt McGowin Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 What do you think are good input limiter settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrettaudio Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I used my MK41 without a Cut 1 filter for years, rolling off at the 442. A few years back I invested in the Cut 1. It enables the mic to send a clean, undistorted signal to the mixer. Now, I ALWAYS use the Cut 1 with the MK41, even when the mic's on a stand. It greatly cuts down on proximity effect when using capsules with tight patterns (MK41), and amps the signal a few dB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Collins Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Agree, Cut 1 is best. eBay has one going for $150.00 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Not a fan of the Cut 1, I don't like what it does the the length and weight of the mic, and I want to be able to A/B the rolloff without taking the mic apart. For some male voices and nearly all instrumental work I don't want that much rolloff in. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Just to clarify, the Schoeps CUT 1 is two different devices in one. The first is a steep 4th order high-pass filter (24dB/octave) at 70Hz. The second is a gentle (6dB/octave IIRC) continuously-variable low frequency roll-off. The steep cutoff filter is always active and is generally the best use of the CUT 1. The roll-off can be dialed in as needed, but is something I'd rather do at the mixer. For music recording, I wouldn't use a CUT 1. For dialog, the steep slope of the filter gets rid of potential problems with lower frequencies that are below what's useful for dialog. On feature films with controlled circumstances and a good boom op(s), I may choose not to use the CUT 1(s). For commercials and run-n-gun, I find them really helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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