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"$200 OR LESS depending on the quality of your gear"

That's a bit cheeky...

 

I thought the same. Does that mean that the higher the quality of the gear, the LESS they will pay you? lol

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Why don't _we_ ever get these kinds of offers?:

 

 

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/tfr/4058364428.html

 

 

 >>COLLEGE MODELS & Adult work (UCLA/USC/CC students) $2,500/day (Los Angeles) Top Modeling Agency Needs College Females/ Recent Graduates, 18-23 for modeling and adult work.

Adult work includes "escorting" prestigious, prominent and well-known corporate, media and celebrity clients around town "after hours". Our clients want to take out tall, impressive, model-stunning women on their arms as well as have a very satisfying and fulfilling evening in private.

If you want enjoyable and profitable work where you really, truly enjoy making people happy then this is for you. Our clients prefer well-educated women that can keep up very well in conversation. You must dress elegantly, yet sexy (less playboy-stripper and more fashionesque).

You must be young, tall, thin, gorgeous, elegant and a sexy model-type. 

You will earn $2,000-$2,500/day (or more) with steady work.

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We -do- sometimes get that kind of work, if you consider the horizontal operation that Adult work includes "escorting" implies.

 

It's just we do it with our technical skills, for the sake of product propaganda, and don't get paid nearly as much.

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You must be young, tall, thin, gorgeous, elegant and a sexy model-type.

 

- You know me very well..

 

O WAIT!

Say female!

Damn it.

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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cwg/4051386291.html

Need EXPERIENCED SOUND Professional for short film (Various LA locations)

Need EXPERIENCED SOUND Professional with OWN EQUIPMENT for a 6 day shoot starting Sept.17th shooting through Sept.22.

Please have gear comparable to: 8 Track Recorder/Mixer, Shotgun/Boom, 4x Wireless Lavs, Lockit Box, Timecode Slate, Proper accessories (batteries etc. please have enough batteries to avoid down time).

Boom operator provided by production.

The job pays. Please expect long days.

Thank you.

Location: Various LA locations

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

Compensation: $200 a DAY - OR LESS- it depends on quality of your gear (*as stated above)

My reply:

Yeah brah I have a 12-track mixer-recorder (eight is for wieners) all Class-C preamps with motorized faders and it records at 6k, like fifty wireless sets, some Comteks signed by James Cameron's assistant, and I pull a generator on a Radio Flyer behind me to charge AA's (also hate downtime!).

LOL @ THIS $200 KINGLY RATE, IM DOING IT FOR $50, AND WE BETTER WORK LONGER DAYS THAN YOU WANT. IM THE SOUND GUY THAT STAYS UNTIL HOUR 24. IM GONNA LIVE AT YOUR HOUSE, DAWG. YOU'RE GONNA THINK OF ME AS A BROTHER BEFORE THIS SHOOT IS OVER. WHEN WE'RE AT CAN FILM FESTIVAL YOU'LL BE LIKE "I LOVE YOU, BROTHER" BUT IN FRENCH. IM GONNA TONGUE-KISS YOUR SISTER.

Hit me up, fresh. I'm so happy to have a job that pays! Thank you so much! I knew one day I could put my gear to use AND get paid for it!

I normally don't read this thread cause I'm kinda tired of the CL bashing crap however I took a chance today just to see what's up. This post had me cracking up. Thanks!

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Michael, I generally agree with the sentiment. However, CL (and its ilk) has become a big part of urban life, and most everyone I know is familiar with it, its expectations and its –for lack of a better word– "ballparks."

 

Whenever I have the time, I make it a point to check it out and replying to posts, usually with a polite explanation of how their low offer will end up biting them in the ass.

 

The main point, however, is that I'm also seeing now on Mandy and, even worse, on paid services such as media-match and filmandtvpro, truly offensive offers for supposedly experienced sound mixers, as well as other professions. I pay monthly for two of these services, to stay informed about possible work opportunities - how do you think I feel when 80% of the jobs I see posted are in the $100-$250 a day range?

 

This is like propaganda: the more these "mickey mouse" rates get posted, forwarded, discussed and repeated, the more they become accepted as the norm. And that's why I think it's important to keep calling attention to them.

 

I totally get that young mixers need to "start somewhere" (you and I were there a few years ago) but these ads now demand equipment levels (eight wireless mics? Four Comteks? Really?!) and experience, which tells me that they're just not aware of what the cost-benefit ratio is or should be.

 

As a matter of fact, I'm in the middle of a thread with a producer who's making a film with two major award-winning celebrities, the DP is supposed to be an Emmy-winning shooter, and they need a mixer for a short day (8 hrs, supposedly) and they only have $175, all in. They even offered to have a "tall and strong grip" to boom (!!) unless I'm willing to boom myself. I was finally able to get her to offer a bit more (still half of what you and I would consider a decent rate) while going on about how they're over budget and how it would be great to work with "Hollywood Royalty" (which I've already done, thankyouverymuch - not that it matters.)

 

Please allow me one more anecdote:

 

A friend just finished filming an indie drama, and they're looking for a mixer/sound designer - while she waited for my call (I'd been on a job) she took somebody's advice and posted an ad on Mandy, and is now deluged with various offers and quotes… The only thing I told her was "make sure you don't hire the guy who'll charge you a thousand dollars, because either he doesn't know WTF he's talking about, or he'll just butcher the film for a quick buck."

 

Sorry for the rant - and thanks for reading this far…

 

Peace,

BK

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Here's one from a paid website:

 

http://www.filmandtvpro.com/us/job_view.php?uid=193861&c=&utm_source=jobalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=job193861&

 

"Beauty in the Broken" is a romantic feature set in modern day Venice Beach, CA.
The director, Max Leonida is an award winning director from Italy making his big American feature debut, and the producers have worked on many features such as Spiderman, The Spirit, and MacGruber.

This particular venture is a low budget feautre with heart. We are looking for an experienced Boom Op to work 18 days: from Sept 23rd - Oct 18th.

We have $100/day to offer this time around and we hope to find someone we can all work with and support in the future.

 

 

I'm paying monthly for this kind of "job" offer?

BK

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It could be dumber:

 

"We are looking for a gaffer... you will also be expected to supply three radios and a boom."

You need three more radios besides the boom box?  <G>

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" "Beauty in the Broken" is a romantic feature set in modern day Venice Beach, CA "

I'd do it, if it was a mystery feature...

" making his big American feature debut, "

Big ?  with no $$ ??

with all those awards in Italy, s/he should hold out for a movie with a budget..?

" the producers have worked on many features such as Spiderman, The Spirit, and MacGruber. "

they were unpaid "interns" production assistants...

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"The director, Max Leonida is an award winning director from Italy making his big American feature debut, and the producers have worked on many features such as Spiderman, The Spirit, and MacGruber."

 

 

 

 

Is he following in the footsteps of another Italian director Claudio Fragasso who also tried to make his great American feature debut?

 

(If you don't know who Fragasso  is, he was the director behind Troll 2- look it up for more info on that masterpiece).

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This particular venture is a low budget feautre with heart.

 

...as opposed to all the other low-budget, non-paying features being made by wannabes these days, who are strictly in it for the money? (Sorry, make that "low budget feautres")

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FaceBook response from production company to gaffer about working on their film:

 

Thank you (name) !!! Can you send your resume, reel, and info to ...

 

What goes on a gaffer reel???

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