Jim Feeley Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Chater Camera, a local NorCal rental house, just posted a picture of a Pro I/O module that they received. To refresh our memory, Red says: ----- For advanced configurations, the PRO I/O MODULE attaches to the rear of your DSMC brain to provide a central hub for essential I/O connections. Professional I/O support for audio and video is critical for large productions and the PRO I/O MODULE bundles them conveniently into one compact DSMC module. Connections Include: 1x Genlock / PGM / Preview (BNC) 1x AES 2x 3-Pin XLR Input 1x 5-Pin XLR Output 1x Timecode (5-Pin Lemo) 1x GPIO (4-Pin Lemo) 1x Power (4-Pin Lemo) 1x AUX (10-Pin Lemo) 1x LCD/EVF Output (RED Display) ------ Here's the Chater picture: As soon as someone here works with one, let us all know what you think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 what the F?!?! AES on Lemo... right next to a BNC jack field... couldn't they have added a 4th AES for AES-ID? Or maybe put AES on XLR in lieu of the output and put the output up there on TA5 or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Wait a minute. AES on Lemo or the XLR 3/4 is AES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 http://www.red.com/store/products/pro-io-digital-audio-cable $275 .. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Wait a minute. AES on Lemo or the XLR 3/4 is AES? AES on Lemo. Analog audio on tracks 3&4 on XLR3F's and audio out on 5 pin XLR male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Does anyone think that it is justified for a mixer to buy and rent this particular module out to production for shoots that require it? It doesn't really bring anything to the table for the typical shooter, as they'd rather be without it but for situations that require me to tether, I can provide the module too, does that make any sense to anyone or is it too close to home to camera department to be workable...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg sextro Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 ...love how they put timecode back on a 5 pin vs 4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 What I think is that hanging anymore sh## on that tiny camera body will require that the fans run full bore full time just to keep the camera from exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Does anyone think that it is justified for a mixer to buy and rent this particular module out to production for shoots that require it? I don't know Tom. Beyond department lines, it seems like it'd be an infrequent rental. Productions that care might get their camera with it already. Those that don't have it might not want to spring for it. And it's a one-camera-only accessory. And do you just slap the thing on, or does it take a fair amount of configuration? And I'd be bummed if a connector on the camera or box got damaged; that could be sticky. I think I'll just keep a little list of camera houses that have the box available and, if/when appropriate, point folks in the right direction. But I haven't really thought this through... What I think is that hanging anymore sh## on that tiny camera body will require that the fans run full bore full time just to keep the camera from exploding. Alas, this page doesn't load correctly. Hell, it doesn't even exist: http://www.red.com/store/products/redfridgerator Pretty nice pictures, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Does anyone think that it is justified for a mixer to buy and rent this particular module out to production for shoots that require it? It doesn't really bring anything to the table for the typical shooter, as they'd rather be without it but for situations that require me to tether, I can provide the module too, does that make any sense to anyone or is it too close to home to camera department to be workable...? No. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 http://www.red.com/s...tal-audio-cable $275 .. What? Either way- i am NOT buying the cable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHall Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 The guys at RED are just LEMO whores, aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 The audio module is $3,750 msrp. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I've already been asked by an owner of 2 Epics if I thought he should buy these for his cameras. I said that if there was anything on there that he wanted picture-wise then sure. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not buying one. I'm not sending AES to the camera, and I'm not buying the weirdo AES breakout that will be required: they got me on the RED 4 pin Lemo breakout for the camera without this thing--that's the last Epic cable I'm buying/making. One of the touts on this camera was that it was really small, or WAS really small before they added this thing. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I just found out there's another fan inside the Pro/IO (if I read the specs right): http://www.red.com/store/products/pro-io-module "Built-in ventilation keeps module at appropriate temperatures." Hep me, pleeze... Note also that Channels 1 & 2 -- the main channels on any pro camera -- are still only accessible from the front-mounted 3.5mm TRS jacks. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I just found out there's another fan inside the Pro/IO (if I read the specs right): http://www.red.com/s...s/pro-io-module "Built-in ventilation keeps module at appropriate temperatures." Hep me, pleeze... Note also that Channels 1 & 2 -- the main channels on any pro camera -- are still only accessible from the front-mounted 3.5mm TRS jacks. Crazy. I'd say it's just vents. How much heat can this module produce, anyway? I wonder if it may become a benefit - acting as a heat-sink for the rest of the camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 AES on Lemo. Analog audio on tracks 3&4 on XLR3F's and audio out on 5 pin XLR male. Thank you Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Does AES go on channels 3/4 also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHall Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 How much heat can this module produce, anyway? Famous last words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Famous last words... Along with "Here hold my beer and watch this." Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 ...love how they put timecode back on a 5 pin vs 4... Yeah, I noticed that too. So unless you know 100% that the module is on the camera, you better keep both styles of TC cables, and audio cables and..... Argh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsnd Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 What an idiotic, brainlessly managed company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I'd be the first one to say that i am paranoid about this sort of stuff but the lack of logical consideration for the sound dept feels antagonistic at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I try to have a pre-configured sound and time code camera kit ready when I hit the set. Toward that goal, I am now carrying several times as many specialty cables for Reds as for any other camera. It's total silliness. There are at least 9 or 10 specialty cables I need to have ready to meet all configurations of Reds, and with the latest appendages, the number increases. To quote the final words of the classic film, "The Bridge On The River Kwai," "Madness. Madness." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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