ProSound Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Does anyone have windshield suggestions for TL-40s? The Sanken Cos-11 Windscreens fit them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniebeaudry Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 The Sanken Cos-11 Windscreens fit them I think you can buy a metal windscreen from OST for the TL40 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karri Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Ah, there it is in the price list. I'll look into these two, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 @pampasound, I haven't used them on a job yet, but tested them out a bit yesterday and today on my G3's. Both TL-40's worked fine and sounded really nice to me. I compared them against a Sennheiser stock mic, and the difference was pretty clear. Stock mic sounded like it didn't have as much going on in the low mids and lower freq's. By contrast, the TL-40's sounded much fuller and well rounded. Also did a quick comparison against my Rode NTG-3 shotgun, and I feel like the TL-40's are MUCH closer to it than the stock mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampasound Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 @ Andy, thanks a lot for the report...!!...i think i will get a pair of TL-40s soon....my only concern is that according to some reviews they are not great for plain sight usage....but i think a proper windscreen would solve that problem!... Again thanks for the review and good luck ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 After I've used these for a few months, if they hold up well I'll definitely get another pair. May try the 801's if I do that, but then again, the TL-40's are very small and easy to hide, so...don't know. Really good bang for the buck. One thing I think others have mentioned, is that the cable is thicker than most lavs. It would be a problem with a tight t-shirt, maybe, but I like the sense of durability. Seems more heavy duty than something like a B6 cable. I was working as an A2 on a reality shoot last month, and the B6 mics were dropping like flies over the course of 10 days. The gear was from a rental house in L.A., though, so the abuse factor may have played a part in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 " from a rental house in L.A., though, so the abuse factor may have played a part in that. " why be gentle, it's rental... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 why be gentle, its rental... LOTD, Senator! Yeah, we had 28 SMQV's to carry around, and they were just chucking them all in an un-padded Pelican case with B6's and COS-11's attached to rattle around. I ended up finding some bubble wrap at our base camp to try and be nicer to the gear and improvise some padding and separation. That was probably around $50,000 of gear just banging around in the case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 while the class can hear a difference between that system and a $3500 system with premium lav, generally they are about evenly split on which they prefer... that is for dialog, but then come the keys on a ring, and there is no question which is the $600 system. I don't understand the point of the infamous "key test". I am recording dialog, not keys jangling. I mean, sure there might be some natural sound of keys jangling, but the boom is there to get that, and if its not good enough, some pretty easy Foley work will get it right. If a Sennheiser sounds good on dialog (which it does, to me, so far), that's a good thing. My biggest beef with my Sennheiser wireless so far is range and interference around RF reflective metal surfaces, such as aluminum. Anyway, thread hijack off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Lectrosonics FAQ: "What Is the Dreaded Key Test?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Lamontagne Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I've got 5 or 6 of the TL-40 mics. They work great on my 500 and 700 series micron, SMV and 200 series Lectro. Why would anyone go for anything else.......? Well, since I have a few B6 mics, I will find use for the thinner and more easily hide-able countrymans. I found the TL-40 slightly brighter, though every mic placement changes frequency response so no matter. Dave has excellent customer service. One deciding factor for me was application specific, wiring the lav to provide audio directly to helmet mounted contour cameras in an extreme sport production. Oh and priced to be almost disposable. My producers FREAK out when an actor destroys a COS-11 and they get the bill. The TL-40 solves this. Good luck, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniebeaudry Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I've got TL40s, 802s, B6s, and just got Sankens. I am enjoying the Sankens a great deal but the reason I have different choices is that there isn't a "perfect" lav for every situation or type of wardrobe. They all have their pros and cons and its good to be able to try something different if your initial choice isn't working well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 " I am recording dialog, not keys jangling. " that is exactly what I tell my students... The Senn Evolution series wireless are an excellent value, and well suited for their projects! but: there is a difference, and reason for the more expensive alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 So, yes, better IS indeed better, but in my very small market it really is about bang for the buck and more about the archer over the arrows. Doesn't hurt to have decent arrows, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 " Doesn't hurt to have decent arrows, though. " you took some of those words right out of my posts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Hey, I know some wisdom when I see it! As a former actual archer, I wouldn't have been any good with crappy warped arrows, of course. Decent, functional arrows? Yeah, I can work with those... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 In other words, in my little slice of heaven, decent arrows are appreciated. Most of the productions I work around here wouldn't know a quality arrow if it hit them in the ass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 " Most of the productions... wouldn't know a quality arrow if it hit them in the ass... " keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Potential shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanmc Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I have a couple of each ( 801/TL40s ) which I bought on a whim... I like them alot and seem to be well put together. I actually was quite surprised by the sound quality for the price ( for any price ). Bright but still full and dialogue recorded with them holds up well in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karri Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 I just noticed one of my TL40s has a substantially higher noise floor compared to the others. The sound is also a bit funky. Guess I'll need to contact OST, doesn't seem normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markfarrowaudiopost Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re king speech and Tram, the post guys must have done a great job with eq. I hate the tram, they sound awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markfarrowaudiopost Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 So do the Oscar's work well under clothing rustle etc, I like the sound of the Rode but apparently they are very susceptible to clothing noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 " Guess I'll need to contact OST, doesn't seem normal. " maybe you could restore them yourself... just apply 220VAC from a power mains.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Tl40s work very well under clothing. Can't go wrin with those. Mine never broke after weeks and weeks of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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