sergiofucchi Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 It is not long I frequent this place, but I just really liked that many great professionals here are very helpful to anyone with a problem or a question. This does not happen in Italy. Every professional, more or less important, it seems to be locked up in his ivory tower and does not show your willingness never the same. All this is bad, because in this way the figure of the location sound recordist is not highly regarded in the indie film or in low/no budget film, as opposed to the director or the director of photography. Sergio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Thank you, Sergio, I take this as a compliment and endorsement of the really wonderful group of people we have here on JWSOUND. We have lots of people still in our industry that do not wish to share their knowledge and experience, feeling threatened by younger people with little experience taking the jobs away. We are all fortunate that most of the more experienced members here who regularly participate, do so with a generosity of spirit and enthusiasm that is at the heart of this online community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Sergio I totally agree with you. jwsound is a very collegial place. Thank you Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Martin Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 A good place indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 This does not happen in Italy. +1 and for Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I worry a lot about younger people "taking my jobs", but I still like to contribute. I have probably "taken jobs" from some more experienced guys, and I continue to try to do so :-) Let me rephrase. I compete with more experienced mixers for the same job. I have never attempted to "take" a job someone already has. Big distinction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I also agree 100%. Invaluable knowledge base, and in a very tangible way it has helped me get work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I worry a lot about younger people "taking my jobs", but I still like to contribute. I have probably "taken jobs" from some more experienced guys, and I continue to try to do so :-) Maybe younger people will read the threads about not working for less than minimum wage, and not to give away gear "as a favor", which will counteract the craigslist bottom feeders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Maybe younger people will read the threads about not working for less than minimum wage, and not to give away gear "as a favor", which will counteract the craigslist bottom feeders. Yes. I hope this site discourages both agreeing to a bad deal, as well as low-balling to get a job. It's really the most important thing to learn. This is, indeed, a good place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 The USA production sound field, at least on the West coast, was like you describe Italy now when I started doing this work in the mid-1970's. One of the key factors in opening things up was a willingness on the part of some of the more experienced people working in the 1980s and '90's to share knowledge in person, then on early BBS forums culminating (I think) in Our Host starting this one. Right person with the right cred at the right time. Thanks philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Being open and "transparent" can only lead to good things. I was (and am still) much less experienced compared to others on this board, and I certainly had a different view on my job than when I first got here. This place has taught me that being open and honest about your work can only help your peers. Sharing experiences and trading knowledge is a sort of economy I guess, and this place is a great marketplace for ideas. I've learned more on here than going to film school. Why? Because you guys are professionals willing to share your experiences and are not afraid to really do that, whereas in a school or any other place of education, teachers will try and shove you in a certain direction rather than sharing their own experiences. And the hangouts.. oh man. I can start crying talking about it :') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Boisvert Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Because of everything I've learned here, the next round's on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 This place definitely changed my path. When I was double booked once, I posted a job with one of my corporate clients, and gave it to a JW member. That trajectory gave me a burgeoning colleague support network where referrals now travel in both directions. When I was offered a job that was too big for my skill level, I asked Marc Wielage if he would like it, and asked that he take me on as his second. That trajectory gave me the opportunity to learn with him on several gigs. This place is amazing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ragon Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 .. So then, Mark Wielage told me.. you should hang out with Steven.. In which I did, and we went out and had lunch one day.. I now have another friend in which I can call for help or rely on.. Yep, this is an amazing place. So, here's to the next year.. With many more new friends. -Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whit Norris Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 +1 This is an amazing place! Thanks Jeff! Whit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Giving and receiving is a wonderful thing IMO. We seem to do it well here at jwsound. From the Senator's refrain of doing the homework yourself, (an important lesson), to the beginners awkward questions about many things, to the Vets sometimes sage advice, the community is working in a world wide way to help each other. For myself and I'm guessing others, I get back more than I give when I can help with a tech question or a job situation question, or even an old war story. Thanks to all who participate here @jwsound. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Quinn Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Giving is good and this place gives by the bucket load.And it often has me roaring with laughter, a great resource long may it last. Cheers to all Best Johnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Robot Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Indeed. I have met new friends and work colleagues here, and hope to keep meeting more. Plus, you fine folks have radically increased my learning curve and made day to day life much happier due to the knowledge gain. Time to give back when possible and keep the circle of knowledge going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yes thank you Jeff. This place is family. We even have our own kookie uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yes. What all those other people said. What a treat, here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 +1 to all above. Willing to share issues and remedies I've encountered, either figured out on my own or otherwise. I also pick up a lot of valuable info and tips here that I never would have thought of in a million years. Thanks Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Not having formal training in location sound made me feel like an imposter in my early career. Thanks to jw for creating this space that helped me build confidence in my skills and knowledge. I own half of the professional i am today to all the things i learned here. Being a location sound recordist is most of the time a lonely fight in a noisy world and because of this place i feel that we re all engaged together in it. Long live jwsoundblog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnewton Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 "lonely fight in a noisy world". well said Dominique. I love this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 " Maybe younger people will read the threads about not working for less than minimum wage, and not to give away gear "as a favor", which will counteract the craigslist bottom feeders. " they won't, it won't... the younger people you refer to are less experienced, often much less experienced, and thus cannot compete successfully for the higher $$ gigs, and thus must struggle to get even the lower paying ones. sometimes they have basic bit adequate gear, and sometimes they buy a lot of expensive toys, thinking that is what will make their work better, and them worth more, only to have to also discount it. Minimum wage is a good requirement (and being on payroll, too) but... none of this has to do with the value(s) many of us derive from our participation here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ragon Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 none of this has to do with the value(s) many of us derive from our participation here. Communicating that value is pretty difficult in a world where we are being devalued day after day, and discounted in lue of having the gear, to the common producer. I've found that you basically have to wait for the newbie producer to fail at the sound part first, before you can then assert your value as a member of the team. -Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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