swaneon Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 In this video https://vimeo.com/63989252 The female voice has a hissy quality that annoys me and destroys the audio. Is there any way to remove that through software or should I record the sound differently? I have an avantone ck1 plugged into a SD 302 and have a marantz 661 record. Thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Most of that's probably mic placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaneon Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Really? I have the mic extremely close in both of those shots--albeit pointed up though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm with Tom. Extremely close isn't always good, experiment a bit, move it further away or slightly off axis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 The female voice is not hissy, she has a high frequency peak in her speech on "S" sounds. It will always be there. Best you can do is to minimize it by doing what others have suggested. FWIW, I don't find it objectionable. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atheisticmystic Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 The female voice is not hissy, she has a high frequency peak in her speech on "S" sounds. It will always be there. Best you can do is to minimize it by doing what others have suggested. FWIW, I don't find it objectionable. Eric I agree with Eric, as far as hyper-sibilance goes, this is quite mild. Try cutting 2-3dB at around 7K with a very narrow Q. Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 avantone ck1 http://www.avantonepro.com/Avantone-CK-1-Small-Capsule-FET-Pencil-Microphone.html "The high quality FET circuitry will yield pleasing professional results comparable to much more expensive designs. Any studio can proudly offer the CK-1 for instrumental and percussion mikingIt exudes class visually as well as sonically. The CK-1 is equally at home on the stage for drum overheads, acoustic instruments and piano." Specifications Type True Condenser Polar Pattern(s) Cardioid , Hyper-Cardioid & Omni Capsules included Frequency Response 25-20,000 Hz +/- 3dB Output Impedance <=200 Ohms Maximum SPL 138dB (0.5% THD @1000Hz) Sensitivity 15mv/pa S/N Ratio 1Pa 78dB Noise Floor < 17 dBA Output Connector Male XLR 3-pin Included Accessories -3 Capsules -Padded Wooden Box -SSM Shockmount High-Pass Switch 80 Hz 6dB/octave Attenuation Switch -10 dB Power Requirements Standard 48 Volt Phantom / 5mA Dimensions (23mm) x (153mm) Weight 5 oz. Finish Polished Nickel trim / Metallic Cabernet Red Body $149 everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Collins Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 So I'm guessing I should not sell my Schoeps to buy one of these? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Truth be told the mic does not sound bad at all although I would prefer a Merlot red color. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 "The female voice has a hissy quality that annoys me and destroys the audio" - By "hissy", do you mean sibilance or the BG noise floor? - I concur with Eric, it does not sound all that bad to me. A lot depends on ones playback speakers (and D/A converter) if they're not at least somewhat accurate, you don't know what your heariong. Computer speakers for instance are notorious for a 'hissy' sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 " Any studio can proudly offer the CK-1 for instrumental and percussion mikingIt exudes class visually as well as sonically. The CK-1 is equally at home on the stage for drum overheads, acoustic instruments and piano." what sounds good for drum overheads,acoustic instruments and piano might not best flatter the human voice, be it male or female Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaneon Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I heard that the avantone was good but now I'll probably look for other mics--schoeps or sennheisher by hissy I mean the sibilance---her peaks when she pronounces her "S" seems very sharp-- from what others mentioned is that naturally with some people's voice or is that a technical issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 if the talent already has a sibilant voice a mic with a high frequency boost will add more to what you already have too much of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottm Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 could also be a bad acoustic 'perfect storm', an ess-y speaker w a combing reflection coming off that polished wooden surface. (and a peaky mic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaneon Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 ah I see---im using my retina to listen, I'll take a look outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Booming from underneath often gives you more sibilance, boom from above and out in front of her so you point more at the chest and still capture the voice but are "shooting through" the sibilance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I would also say that background hiss is a combination of matching the characteristics of the microphone and the preamp, plus it depends on the mic's own self-noise issues. To me, you can't expect a lot from a $150 Chinese-made microphone. (I know of some older low-output American and European dynamic mics that weren't exactly quiet, too.) Try a lower-noise condensor mic like the Sennheiser MKH40 (sensitivity of 25mv, noise level of 12dB), and you'll hear a big difference. If this is for music vocals in a booth (vs. production), then I'd consider getting advice over on the Gearslutz Forum, which has literally thousands of discussions on vocal mics for music recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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