Ty Ford Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 is there a store bought bag that beats the Petrol or Portabrace? Thanks, Ty Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Kortwich? I haven't ever seen the Camrade in person. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Hirtenstein Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Kortwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ty What are you looking for in a bag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 " a store bought bag that beats the Petrol or Portabrace? " kinda' subjective... kinda' depends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 i'd be interested in hearing about other great bags people are actually using for their 664 as well. I'm currently using a modified Petrol PS601 to have a nice, tight rig, but it isn't ideal. I've tried a PS617, and don't love the fact that it doesn't stand up on it's own, and media was not all that easy to access, I've read that media access isn't that easy with the 664 PortaBrace bags, either. Folks seem to love the Kortwich bags... so I'd like to ask... does it stand up on its own when laid flat, and is it easy to access media? Cheers, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 A bag "standing" up is imperative I agree. Do the 601 and 617 not stay up on their own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 601 does, but it is too small for the 664... And no, the Petrol 617 does not sit flat very well and actually getting at the media cards was a PITA, in my opinion. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 My custom kortwich stands on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gilchrist Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I spent a couple of hours with the Camrade bag and the 664 at my local dealer. The bag is not very flexible and it seems only intended for the 664/CL6/mess of 411 receivers combo. I took a pass. I purchased one of the PortaBrace bags, for the 664 without a CL6, the MXC-664B. It was almost adequate, with a very odd profile and a strange add-on RF multi pouch configuration. I used it for a few weeks before I surrendered gave the Petrol 617 bag a try. It's more substantial than the PortaBrace bag but again laid out for the 664/CL6 combo. It seems like the empty bag weighs quite a bit more than the mixer itself. The flaps with zippers and elastic cords at both connector panels are difficult and annoying. They make media slot access almost impossible if the timecode and the A 10 pin connectors are in use, at least with my arthritic claws. A blade fuse puller helps with CF card access. In my opinion, of the Camrade, the purpose-built PortaBrace case and the Petrol 617, the Petrol is the least bad option. I'd love to try a Kortwich bag but that doesn't seem a practical choice because of availability here. There is a PortaBrace audio organizer bag that's evidently laid out for the 664, the AO-4WT. It may prove the most useable of the easily obtained bags, but that will mean I'll have spent nearly a grand just trying to find a bag that works. I'll stop whining now. Best regards, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Radlauer Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I've been struggling with PS617 myself... At first I jettisoned the black frame for all the RX's. Didn't seem practical inside the pouch, and like most I dont like that it doesn't stand up on its own! After rebuilding my cables I decided to mount my RX's in that "frame" but instead of inside the pouch I put it in the main compartment...It was a bit of a struggle to get it in there, but it seems to make it more rigid...and if anything it keeps the edges of the RX's from rubbing on the top of our beautiful mixer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Ive seen the 664 in action with a field venue in a 603. Seemed to work out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimPitot Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 PS602. Heavy but it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT Groove Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I bought a PS617 and immediately realize it's not a well designed bag IMO. It has no handles, it doesn't sit up properly, it's too WIDE with the flaps sticking out like wings, the receiver compartment doesn't work well with the zippers on top, access to the CF card is still difficult. I sold it and went with an old Petrol Pegz-2. Aside from difficulty accessing the cards, everything else fits just right. For smaller gigs, I use the modified PS601 and it works fine. I'm curious to see the new PB AO-4WT. Hopefully that will be another contender in the search for a good 664 bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I bought a PS617 and immediately realize it's not a well designed bag IMO. It has no handles, it doesn't sit up properly, it's too WIDE with the flaps sticking out like wings, the receiver compartment doesn't work well with the zippers on top, access to the CF card is still difficult. I sold it and went with an old Petrol Pegz-2. Aside from difficulty accessing the cards, everything else fits just right. For smaller gigs, I use the modified PS601 and it works fine. I'm curious to see the new PB AO-4WT. Hopefully that will be another contender in the search for a good 664 bag. No handles on the 617was a bit of a deal breaker for me. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I wish my 614 had handles (almost the same bag, but smaller for a 788 or Nomad). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 No handles on the 617was a bit of a deal breaker for me. R I just found and old PortaBrace handle and clipped it onto the rings. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MT Groove Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 I just found and old PortaBrace handle and clipped it onto the rings. Tom I tried putting a PB handle on it as well. Not the same and it gets in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBoisseau Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 I tried putting a PB handle on it as well. Not the same and it gets in the way. It's been working out okay for me. Of course I agree. I wish the handles were part of the bag, and I also am some what disappointed with the design of the 617, but for now it seems to be the best alternative. Perhaps eventually I'll see about modifying my old 552 bag. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanieldH Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 For reference, the link to Kortwichs 664-bags: http://www.filmtontechnik.de/585.html Images are quite informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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