Victor Nguyen Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I been shooting videos in extremely loud environments. Are there anything I can buy to save my hearing? you know... because there's no such thing as a deaf audio guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Anderson Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I can't recommend a certain type. But I did just refer my current job to this site for finding cheap ear plugs: http://www.earplugstore.com But it sounds like might want something from this company: http://www.etymotic.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Get the Remote Audio High Noise Headphone and keep your monitoring level reasonable! I have two different SPL meter apps in my iPhone, and if it goes over a certain point, I'll warn the producer and will grab some foam earplugs. It doesn't block everything -- I couldn't do my job if I did that -- but it takes it down to a mild roar. I'm amazed how nonchalant some everyday workers (particularly guys who use jackhammers and air wrenches) aren't aware that they're killing their hearing being around 100dB+ noise levels much of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Not earplugs but would attenuate the ambient SPL, since you still would want to monitor the audio http://www.remoteaudio.com/high_noise_headset/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 +1 Marc and Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Farrell Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 For ear plugs I use Etymotic Research ER20's and am very pleased but that limits your ability to monitor. I tried the Etymotic Research MC5 earphones but didn't care for them. I think the previously mentioned Remote Audio headphones are the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podgorny Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Westone custom-molded plugs were the best $150 I ever spent. You can wear them ALL DAY LONG comfortably. And the switchable filters allow you to use more or less attenuation to suit the situation. Of course, for monitoring, the isolation headphones may do the job, but they require a tight fit to get the best attenuation of outside noise, and depending on the model, can get uncomfortable quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Nguyen Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Wow, the remote audio seems awesome. However... I'm actually shooting video, not audio at these events. Can you recommend something smaller and more discrete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Anderson Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Wow, the remote audio seems awesome. However... I'm actually shooting video, not audio at these events. Can you recommend something smaller and more discrete? They did. The Westones are pretty discreet. As are the etymotics. The musician etymotics are designed to reduce the dBA's while still allowing unmuffled frequencies in (not sure how that's accomplished - but it's designed for concert musicians). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McQueen Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 i do a lot of nascar stuff and i use the etymotic er4s models with custom ear mold tips which makes them really small and discrete. i know other dudes on the circuit use the westone in ears as well. the remote audio cans are nice, but they are large and hot on your ears so not a lot of dudes in nascar run those. if you're just wanting to protect your ears, check with local gun ranges for custom molded ear protection. but if you're going to go the custom ear mold route, might as well get in ear monitors so you can double up the usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Anderson Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I use etymotic er4b's and they sound only like what your rig sounds like, plus attenuate outside sounds by around 40db and custom molds can make that number go up. they are wonderful headphones, but not great when you actually WANT to hear someone yelling at you from 2' away.... they work great with the included foam tips, but custom molds are really where it's at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Go to your local hearing aid clinic or audiologist and get custom molds they can help you pick right ear plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 They did. The Westones are pretty discreet. As are the etymotics. The musician etymotics are designed to reduce the dBA's while still allowing unmuffled frequencies in (not sure how that's accomplished - but it's designed for concert musicians). FYI, there is a tuned resonator and a an 'acoustic resistor' (basically a diaphragm that is damped) inside the earplug - the resonator is the bit INSIDE the part of the device that sticks out of your ear. This is how it takes external sound and reduces the level without affecting frequency content. I have a pair of the ER40's and I love them. They do get some weird looks, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Nguyen Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 So a few people recommended Etymotic Research. I looked it up on Amazon and it's extremely cheap.http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044DEESS/ Good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 These are the ones I have: http://www.etymotic.com/hp/erme.html I typically keep them loaded with the 15dB pads. You will experience nome slight HF loss, but nowhere near that of normal plugs. I bought the ER20's for my wife a few years back. They are really good, but not quite AS good as my custom molds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Anderson Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I use those and they work well (when I'm at a loud concert), but you'd be better off getting isolation from outside and on the inside using earbud style monitors. for a budget solution to what you need, you should use some earbuds that you are used to the sound of, and then wear these over them: http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_12539.jpg OR headphones that also protect your ears (like what others mentioned: high noise headphones made by remote audio) and you can find those for cheap at hardware stores. but when you wear foam earplugs (that are made for construction or wearing at a rock concert) under your headphones, you run the risk of A: damaging you headphone drivers, or B: simply not hearing as much. (or both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward chick Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I use the Remote Audio cans. Yes, they are hot and heavy, but they are very affordable and work. It continues to amaze me how some sound professionals like FOH engineers do not protect their hearing. I worked the Orion Fest earlier this month. Metallica was the headliner/behind the entire event. I had to interact with their FOH engineer for a feed. He does not use hearing protection. I understand they need to hear all the subtle nuances, but man, how can you effectively tell at those excruciating db levels?Several times I think my heart literally skipped a beat due to the bass levels when we were shooting in front of the stage. I had foam earplugs under my high noise cans, and I probably still damaged my hearing. Protect those eardrums at all costs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Steigerwald Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I love my Etymotic musicians plugs. I have the 15 and 25 dB plugs for them. Several times I think my heart literally skipped a beat due to the bass levels when we were shooting in front of the stage. Mick does love his subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 " I'm actually shooting video, not audio...something smaller and more discrete? " there are numerous very inexpensive foam protectors available from drug stores, industrial supply outlets, and etc. that will serve your needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I use a model available here in France. It seems very close to the Etymotic. I have the 15 and 25 dB models. In very loud places I put them under my headphone (HD25), then push a little the headphones level. I really like wearing them, it is as comfortable as sunglasses : in noisy environments you hear better with those earplugs ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Would ethymotics fit well under my senns hd-25? I think i would like the remote audio headphones but if first option would do the trick i d rather keep it simple and just carry the small earplugs. It s not that frequent in my case that i film loud stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Looking back at the original post, It's a bit vague. If you are planning on wearing earplugs UNDER normal headphones...well... don't. You would just end up cranking you HP level and that isn't going to do you any good If you are trying to monitor sound at moderate levels in a high SPL environment, either go with the remote audio option, a high-isolation in-ear (like the Ety ER-4p's), or in-ear's with standard over-the-ear protection on top. Now, If you're not worried about monitoring sound in this situation, then use whatever ear protection you like. There are plenty of recommendations to cover each of these scenarios above this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I switched to mixing on etymotic er4pt's and I use them exclusively now. Great isolation, great sound, I can actually mix in loud environments, and the best thing is my ears aren't fatigued at the end of the day. Get isolating headphones, they are worth way more than they cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Nguyen Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Looking back at the original post, It's a bit vague. Sorry for the confusion, but I'm not doing any sound monitoring. I shoot weddings and night life highlights video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 " but I'm not doing any sound monitoring. " thus <what i said before> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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