johngooch Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I need to create a thump track. A daw with an internal metronome would be best. Most have internal click track generators but they are pitched too high to be a good thump. I have tried cutting low freq tones and cutting a pasting them into a timeline but that is not the most efficient way to do it. I tried this method with audacity but strange annoying clicking artifacts were revealed. ideas? john. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 many "thumper" systems are set up to generate the thump from the clicks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacefivesound Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Using Pro Tools? Side chain your click to a gate that will open a channel with a tone generator playing the freq of your choice. Bounce it and you're set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacysound Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Drum Machine - Some even have trigger inputs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I worked with the PSC / Location Sound thumper system, that does generate a thumper tone from a click. For some reason, the thumper processor went down, and since I was on the job as the playback operator, I had a ProTools rig on site and managed to just use a click, possibly utilizing an option to change the frequency of the click - I don't remember, and a low-pass filter, and the thump worked just fine. It was actually great that I had a PT rig, because the director ended up wanting me to cut up the song a bit, add more leader before versus, etc... is the best way to go in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 You could use Waves' Renaissance Bass plug-in (or LoAir or something like that) to generate a synthesized subharmonic signal from the input, then buss just that out to the sub on the studio floor. This wound be a true below-80Hz sub signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 We were tought how in PT class, but I don't remember. I have a bunch of thump WAVs, and in audacity I slip and adjust speed accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Conen Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hi John! Made a short clip that may help you: Best, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Tom, Can't make it play. Can you put it on YouTube? Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Tom, Can't make it play. Can you put it on YouTube? Robert It plays just fine for me. Robert, are you using an iOS device? Here is a LINK directly to YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 It plays just fine for me. Robert, are you using an iOS device? Here is a LINK directly to YouTube. Yes. And thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Tom, Thank you so much! Awesome instructional. I created a crude version of a thump using a combination of different tools. Your way much better! very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Conen Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 John, I'm glad I could help you! @Jeff: Thank you for your fast reply. I've found some typos in the clip and corrected them. Should stop switching between languages. :-) Could you please change the link to the new clip? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Maskew Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 I have found that sidechaining the click track in Pro Tools to trigger a gate on the signal generator plugin is the best method (mentioned a couple times above). It allows me to tune the thumper 'on the fly' in case a certain frequency can't be reproduced on the speaker or if there is some sympathetic resonances on set. It also allows me to shape the volume envelope using the attack & release on the gate to give a very staccato thump or a very boomy "808 style" depending on the venue and/or scene. This is an old trick in music production to add sub bass to wimpy kick drums. Hope it helps. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Palmer Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Thanks Tom...great instructional video. Another option... If you already have a click track, and it's an audio track not the internal click generated via the DAW, use Beat Replacer to turn it into anything you want. I use a 40hz tone, shaped so that it starts at the mid point of the wave, as the replacement. Click track is now a Thump track. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Smith Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 One thing to remember when generating your own thump track is that the effectiveness of the "thump" is dependent on: 1) the size of the room, 2) speaker design and placement and 3) the tempo of the track (you don't want too low a frequency or too long a burst on a fast tempo track, as it will tend to lose definition). The waveform should always start and end on the zero cross point. --S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seppesvg Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 6/26/2013 at 5:54 PM, Jeff Wexler said: It plays just fine for me. Robert, are you using an iOS device? Here is a LINK directly to YouTube. hello, the youtube link seems to be unavailable. would it be possible to make it available again, please. thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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