Constantin Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I mean : can't read an audio file's time code I meant that too. Logic can read that TC. It's tucked away in the arrange window's audio menu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep owl Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Yeah, realtime stretching. In DP you could just grab the wave at the right spot and stretch it to your desired length. I found that feature an absolute must when I was working in Japanese to English Anime dubbing. Some actors would get the timing perfect every time but there were plenty of times I'd have to quickly stretch their words to fit picture. I think I remember Cubase/Nuendo did it that way too but my exposure to those progz was limited. Logic has had the TimeMachine since V4, I think. With it you could stretch sound independent of pitch or with pitch-shifting as well. And as I'm typing this, I realise you probably meant realtime stretching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I meant that too. Logic can read that TC. It's tucked away in the arrange window's audio menu Constantin, which logic version"s are you talking about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Constantin, which logic version"s are you talking about ? Version 8, 9 and X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Content took forever to download too (35GB), but works well off an external Thunderbolt SSD array with my other sample libraries. Hey Petros, two questions if you don't mind: 1 is the content included in the 199$ price or did you buy that extra? App Store says 650 MB... 2 Have you tried opening older projects? Apple says it works, but how is it in practice? All plugins are not working I suppose, as long as the're 32 bit? http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5794 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah, realtime stretching. In DP you could just grab the wave at the right spot and stretch it to your desired length. I found that feature an absolute must when I was working in Japanese to English Anime dubbing. Some actors would get the timing perfect every time but there were plenty of times I'd have to quickly stretch their words to fit picture. I think I remember Cubase/Nuendo did it that way too but my exposure to those progz was limited. when I press Alt and pull on the right lower corner of an audio region in the arrange window it gets stretched immediatley. That would be realtime stretching I suppose. I recently found that feature after years of not using it and I like it a lot (in LP8!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Version 8, 9 and X Are you sure? I own version 8.0.2. I checked again right now. Where is the audio files metadata TC ? In my Logic there is nothing in the manual about it, nothing in the audio's menu arrange window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Are you sure? I own version 8.0.2. I checked again right now. Where is the audio files metadata TC ? In my Logic there is nothing in the manual about it, nothing in the audio's menu arrange window. Yes, there is, but it's only used for placing a region. You have to select an audio region in the arrange window and then open the audio menu. There's an item called "move region to original recording position" (I am not sure of the exact English wording, as I only have the german version). A pop-up will show you the original TC and ask you to confirm the move. You may have to extend the project. It's nowhere near what ProTools can do, but it is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petros Kolyvas Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hey Petros, two questions if you don't mind: 1 is the content included in the 199$ price or did you buy that extra? App Store says 650 MB... 2 Have you tried opening older projects? Apple says it works, but how is it in practice? All plugins are not working I suppose, as long as the're 32 bit? http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5794 The content is included in the price. There's a menu item in the Logic menu that allows you to download additional content and (thankfully) be selective about it. All the previous Logic content is there as well. As for older projects - you know I haven't tried it, but I have a few projects with me here so I'll do so and report back (later tonight!) It is indeed 64-bit plugins only, but Apple did give the plugin devs some huge lead time with that change - everything I use except from one terrible plugin developer was long ago upgraded to 64-bit and I was running LP9 in 64-bit mode exclusively for almost two years. Thankfully most of the devs I do trust also included 64-bit AAX native versions in recent updates so my plugins are at parity across both LP and PT. Having said that, I found the 32-bit bridge clunky and crash-inducing anyway - but that's just me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petros Kolyvas Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah, realtime stretching. In DP you could just grab the wave at the right spot and stretch it to your desired length. I found that feature an absolute must when I was working in Japanese to English Anime dubbing. Some actors would get the timing perfect every time but there were plenty of times I'd have to quickly stretch their words to fit picture. I think I remember Cubase/Nuendo did it that way too but my exposure to those progz was limited. Logic 9 introduced "Flex Time" in it's own feature set (works as you describe for DP) at launch in the summer of 2009. However, I often found the algorithms to be a bit lacking - especially when compared to iZotope's Radius. How is the one/are the ones in DP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks Petros! Will get this as soon as I update my OS X, as Lion is not supported. I'm curious whether they made any improvements to the OMF/AAF export functionality, as that never really worked well for me (fades, levels...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petros Kolyvas Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 So I did some tests with random (older) projects at the office and they all loaded fine. LPX is noticeably faster at starting up and it seems that everything just, well, worked! I tried three random projects. One of which was music-to-picture. There's a dedicated AAF import option now - whether or not the functionality is improved remains to be seen! One nice thing is that LPX retains the windowing setups of previous projects very well, meaning you'll be right where you left off more or less. Not exactly earth shattering, but, well, thoughtful at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks Petros! Will get this as soon as I update my OS X, as Lion is not supported. I'm curious whether they made any improvements to the OMF/AAF export functionality, as that never really worked well for me (fades, levels...). Is very easy hack the LPX for work with Lion, http://youtu.be/Kf6KXVH-OO4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep owl Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 As I'm still stuck on DP5 and they're up to 8 or 9 I'm not the best person to ask. For short stretches it sounds great but if you go very far you get all kinds of artifacts. After I move to my new place I'm going to move to Logic X and see how it fares. I'm in pretty desperate need to get something more compatible with current standards and practices even though I'm not doing a whole lot of post. Logic 9 introduced "Flex Time" in it's own feature set (works as you describe for DP) at launch in the summer of 2009. However, I often found the algorithms to be a bit lacking - especially when compared to iZotope's Radius. How is the one/are the ones in DP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henchman Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 As I'm still stuck on DP5 and they're up to 8 or 9 I'm not the best person to ask. For short stretches it sounds great but if you go very far you get all kinds of artifacts. After I move to my new place I'm going to move to Logic X and see how it fares. I'm in pretty desperate need to get something more compatible with current standards and practices even though I'm not doing a whole lot of post. If you are wanting compatible with current standards, get Pro-Tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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