Derek H Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 If it were completely up to me I suppose I'd put both the power tap (D-tap?) and power status on the top of the battery. There it has the easiest access for most bag configurations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Davies Amps CAS Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 +1 Zack, while we are at it, there is another piece of kit that many of us are possibly waiting in vain for. A compact 4 bay lithium np-1 charger I believe would be a good seller. On a daily basis, I need to put 4 batts on charge at the end of thr day. Is there 4 bay charger presently on the drawing board? I have three makes of NP-1. Hawk-Woods, Swit and DSM. All three are charged in a Hawk-Woods 4 bay charger. Malcolm Davies. A.m.p.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hey Everyone! Where would you like the power status LEDs positioned on an NP battery? If there was a power tap on the battery, where would you want it (top, left/right side, front/back face)? Thanks! -Zack Hi Zack, Thanks for asking. I think i would also vote for both on top. Ptap will be a welcome addition. Any comments from the gang re: NP 0.5's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 +1 for top. If there is no room on the top - then on the side as close to the top as possible. And a small rubber "cap" that would get put in the d-tap (I'm assuming it is a d-tap) so if you are not using it you don't need to worry if its going to short anything out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 More watt hours as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 If you have the simultaneous KL-4 charger, it will take 210 min for 4 batteries. If you have the sequential version, it will take 840min. -Zack Just to confirm, what are the differences between the kl-4 version's. Were there more than two different builds? Which of these simultaneously charges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Field: " Just to confirm..., "check with IDX... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDX TEK Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi fieldmixer, I need to retract my statement regarding the charge time of the “simultaneous” KL-4. The 210 min charge time is incorrect. I’ll explain by going over each model’s functions: There were 3 models within the KL-4 series: KL-4 (has SIM and SEQ switch on the back): this is the first generation KL-4 charger with a SIM and SEQ switch on the back. When in SEQ mode, the charger will charge one battery at a time. The LED will only emit on the channel that is charging. When in SIM mode, the charger will charge one battery at a time and have the other channels in standby. As soon as the first battery is close to full charge, the charger will start charging the next battery. SIM mode basically semi-simultaneous; it doesn’t charge all the channels at the same time but there is simultaneous charging going on when batteries are near full. KL-4 (FPC): same method as the SIM mode, just more efficient. KL-4Plus: same as FPC with 4pin xlr DC output. It will take approximately 10 hours to fully charge 4 batteries on the KL-4 series chargers. Let me know if you have questions. Thanks! Just to confirm, what are the differences between the kl-4 version's. Were there more than two different builds? Which of these simultaneously charges? ImageUploadedByTapatalk1389417556.898735.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1389417574.496987.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Excellent. Thank you much for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So how does the current JL-2plus charger compare to the KL-4 series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So how does the current JL-2plus charger compare to the KL-4 series? Think half. Approx. 2.5hrs per battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDX TEK Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So how does the current JL-2plus charger compare to the KL-4 series? The JL-2Plus has a slightly higher charge current compared to the KL-4 series chargers. 2.3A vs 2.0A. So the charge time per battery is slightly less. The charge time per battery is approx 2.5-3hours. The JL-2Plus can also charge NiCD and NiMH chemistries, the KL-4 cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpro Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Zack I just wanted to let you know I purchased some of the V mount Duo batteries for another project. Love the fact in addition to the V mount, there are two D taps and a 5v USB plug. Very nice Thanks David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDX TEK Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Zack I just wanted to let you know I purchased some of the V mount Duo batteries for another project. Love the fact in addition to the V mount, there are two D taps and a 5v USB plug. Very nice Thanks David Thanks David! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Zack, is idx working with a new LI ion chemistry for the possible upcoming np1 refresh? Or is it the same stuff. I read a year or two ago about an ultra fast charge li ion chemistry that was in development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDX TEK Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Zack, is idx working with a new LI ion chemistry for the possible upcoming np1 refresh? Or is it the same stuff. I read a year or two ago about an ultra fast charge li ion chemistry that was in development. There are many variations of lithium batteries with each one having different energy densities, charge/discharge efficiencies, cycles, and voltages. As you mentioned, some lithium batteries have the ability to charge extremely fast; however, there are typically drawbacks when a battery characteristic is emphasized. For example, a certain lithium battery maybe able to charge ultra fast but it may not hold up well in high/low temperature settings or high draw applications. A different lithium battery may have a low capacity but it can handle high loads or have a long life expectancy. What we to do is balance all the good characteristics and deliver a high quality and reliable battery. You may recall the old NP-L40 battery; it looks identical to the current NP-L7S but the cells are different. The 7S has a higher capacity than the 40. So a new battery from IDX will follow a similar path and have updated/different cells. Thanks, Zack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Zack, I know I'm not alone in my appreciation of you hanging out here talking battery-geek-tech with us. It makes me even more glad to be a happy IDX user. Another question: What's the charge current of the ION-4 simultaneous charger? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Anyone come across a 4 bay NP1 charger that is fully simultaneous, ie. will charge all four batteries at the same time from the start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 The one I just mentioned -- ION-4. It's a discontinued model. They're a bit noisy -- the fan has a lot of cooling to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 The one I just mentioned -- ION-4. It's a discontinued model. They're a bit noisy -- the fan has a lot of cooling to do. Thanks - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 That's odd, I found this info. Your specs say 3A, this says 2A... And slightly different dimensions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 That's odd, I found this info. Your specs say 3A, this says 2A... And slightly different dimensions... Hmm don't know why that would be, the specs I posted were a screen grab from a 2004 ION-4 instruction manual pdf which I came across. Attached. ION_4.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Zack, I see that most of the fellows are keen on you guys making the half IDX. I'll add my plus 1 to that too. It would be very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDX TEK Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Zack, I know I'm not alone in my appreciation of you hanging out here talking battery-geek-tech with us. It makes me even more glad to be a happy IDX user. Another question: What's the charge current of the ION-4 simultaneous charger? Thanks. I’m happy to be a part of the community and help when I can! ION-4s made prior to 2003 had a 2A charge current. ION-4s made in 2003 and later were updated to 3A. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Zack, will the IDX JSE-23 charge li-ion np1's.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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