Christopher Mills Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 While I am sure I would prefer to deal with this camera on EPK gigs, my clients have already sunk below xdcam.. to the fs100 and fs700 (yes, these are for dvd extras and EPK interviews for real studios and real networks). On the other hand , that has solidified a recordist/mixer rate for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Still looking awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Thanks for the links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 That's a pretty cool video also. I love seeing the full size knobs for frequent settings, seems to be a very well thought out camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Robot Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Awesome again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) " seems to be a very well thought out camera. " as expected. One of my schools has acquired 3 RED One's (and beaucoup headaches!) and is now adding an Epic, with a Dragon upgrade promised, though they really want ARRI stuff, but cannot get any deals, as ARRI is selling cameras faster than they can produce them Edited September 14, 2013 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hey Senator - not beau-coup - but beaucoup DO whatever to influence your school to get Arris... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundtrane Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 <According to Wikipedia, Amira means Rich or Princess> Depends on which etymology you choose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I hope that timecode sync over 2.4ghz link is a"future possibility" for those two antennas on the back. Ambient ACN perhaps? Timecode buddy or Zaxnet link? More unlikely but would be cool and save space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Looks like another great camera from Arri. Happy to see them pushing forward with great products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armin Siegwarth Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I heard a price point of 35.000 Euro. So right next to a fully packed Dragon Epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Although he return is very clean, i cannot stand sony fs700 anymore. The lack of tc input is killing me. Please camera people buy Arri's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Although he return is very clean, i cannot stand sony fs700 anymore. The lack of tc input is killing me. Please camera people buy Arri's!Hey Dom I'm certain people will look real hard into this. Every other DP will be eyeing this one and ultimately, it's the DPs that call the shots (no pun intended). I foresee great success. Hell, I'd buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 What a difference it makes when you have a company like Arriflex building cameras. Well a camera is not mainly build to accomodate the sound guys... ;-) Too bad they didn't do it 2-3 years ago. Nothing new technology wise. Same Alexa sensor. "HD is the future" & "HD is good enough for documentries" story is just a joke... Move your ass Arri and give us something up to date!!! Now people can be happy for that 3 XLR input, the production will ask the camera operator to make sound and skip the sound guy ;-) Be happy! Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 My praise for the Arri camera is not so much for its usefulness for recording sound --- I appreciate its design as a camera. The battle, if it is to be a battle, for independent double system sound, needs to be waged on more significant grounds than just the sound capabilities of the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 From close looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I heard a price point of 35.000 Euro. So right next to a fully packed Dragon Epic. 35,000 euros is $46,515 usd. A new basic Alexa is $78,558. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Smith Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Glad to see that they stayed with the 5 pin audio inputs (with AES too, although I have only used it rare occasions for camera feeds). At least I don't we don't have to make yet another set of cables! Anything that knocks the RED Epic out of market is a good thing as far as I'm concerned... --S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 There's a lot of griping on the Red User Group as to "why would anybody buy a $40,000 camera that can't do 4K?" One answer to me is, in the case of this new Arri camera, if you can plug in a battery, plug in some disk storage, power it up, throw it on your shoulder and immediately start shooting (ENG style), that's a big plus. With the Epic, you have to buy an awful lot of extra stuff to make it work as a shoulder-mount documentary camera. No question, the Epic has more resolution, but the storage requirements are also four times greater, depending on the data compression used. The Arri may be a much more practical camera for somebody who needs to get down and dirty in fast-moving news situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 There's a lot of griping on the Red User Group as to "why would anybody buy a $40,000 camera that can't do 4K?" One answer to me is, in the case of this new Arri camera, if you can plug in a battery, plug in some disk storage, power it up, throw it on your shoulder and immediately start shooting (ENG style), that's a big plus. With the Epic, you have to buy an awful lot of extra stuff to make it work as a shoulder-mount documentary camera. No question, the Epic has more resolution, but the storage requirements are also four times greater, depending on the data compression used. The Arri may be a much more practical camera for somebody who needs to get down and dirty in fast-moving news situations. Quicker to get shooting in the field, also quicker to get started editing. Arri is building efficient cameras for demanding workflows, red is building what they want to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 I can't imagine using an epic on a doc shoot. What happens after you roll for longer than 10 minutes and the hair dryer kicks in? "Oh crap, now it sounds like we're filming a root canal. At least it's 4k, I guess we'll just loop it, oh wait this is a doc... we didn't think this through.." That said, I know there are docs shot on red I just feel bad for the mixer. Hope to see the Amira in the wild next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hello, Here is a litle video to show my Epic docu setup for fast mooving pace. No hair dryer ever here. R3D 8:1 is lighter than Prores444 no download time problems. Last time I had a technical break down was in the Amazon. The Quantar stopped recording. The Epic was just fine. https://vimeo.com/74732703 Password : Epic Have a nice evening. Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 The real cool and not cool option. The camera menu it's on the viewfinder area. The audio menu it's on the screen of body camera. Really cool. But when the camera op have it on the shoulder you don't have access to see the meters or to attach the buttons. Not cool. One 5 pin XLR Two 3 pin XLR T/C with BNC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 4k is overrated. I watch most everything on my ipad. The Oakley sunglasses camera has had a good run. The audio inputs are in a recessed area, perhaps a Zaxcom TRX900 could hide in there with 5-pin to 5-pin, Timecode, and power from the AB d-tap all right there. Although it looks like there might also be a vent there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 This cam is also a return to the good old rugged ENG cam, a type of cam that is pretty much dead I thought, as everybody's shooting ENG and doc stuff on 5Ds and impractical computer cams (Sonys, Reds...). I know a few doc/ENG cam ops that will like this one a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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