Ty Ford Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I don't see as many 816, 8070, NTG8 in use. Are they becoming specialty mics? Do you still use them? Thanks, Ty Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundslikejustin Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Have used an 816 for very wide frames (even hh pointing in from the side) for a few scenes in recent years. Also, a few wide shots where lavs were not an option. Normally, I'd look to the CS3e to suck dialogue out of BG's but I'd love to have a long gun permanently in my kit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Anyone can comment about Sennheiser MKH 8070 (and with what mic preamps using)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hayter Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I don't think I've taken my 815 out of it's box in five years! Maybe I should sell it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I sold my Neumann 82i about 5 years ago after having it sit in the closet for 8 years. Long shotguns are just too unwieldy for OMB bag work. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 My 816 comes out routinely in city surroundings. Way cleaner than any lav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I used my mkh70 a couple times a week on the last feature i mixed. Great tool to have on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddsound Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I own an MKH70 and use it in certain special situations. When a camera person insists on shooting everything wide. I also sometimes use it on sports shoots where we aren't allowed to mic players. It just gives that little bit of extra reach I need to get usable sound. Have used it on both MLB and PGA shoot with success. I would always like to have it available for use on a job, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I used a (AT 4071) long shotgun on a recent soccer field scene. Other than that, it hasn't been out of it's case in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Still a viable, useful tool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundchris Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I am using my Neumann KMR 82is a lot in noisy environments, like near roads, on the beach,etc. Especially in windy situations it is the only mic that works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I use my mkh70 outside in many environments. Very useful tool IMO. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundpod Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'm about to start a days work where I'll be swinging an mkh70 all day for exterior dialogue. On this show all outside is mic'd using the 70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Blache Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Somedays i'm so happy to use the Mkh 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'm about to start a days work where I'll be swinging an mkh70 all day for exterior dialogue. Wouldn't it be better to hold it steady? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundpod Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Wouldn't it be better to hold it steady? ?? I've got to point it at whoever talks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I never found my 82i to be really any more reachy than the CS3e, and not as directional as an 816 or 70 for sure. I keep it as a 2nd mic for exteriors, mostly because and 816 is just too much for a lot of soundies too deal with anymore, length, weight, wind resistance and the need to be really "on" mic with it. I'm going to get a 70 one of these days if I find a deal. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 ?? I've got to point it at whoever talks (It was a joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Woodcock Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 (It was a joke) (He knows) Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 816 still an exceptional mic - can be tricky to handle. Learned about boom technique training with one at film school. Last time I used one was shooting shark dive off Hawaii for reactions on the surface. Big mic - long pole - luckily the sea gods where calm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Ford Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 First time I tried out my newly bought used MKH816, I was on the front lawn and a guy almost a block away was getting into his car. I cranked up the gain and heard his car keys tinkle. As impressed as I was, a car then came up the street and passed between us. It was so loud I had to eject my headphones. Other times with shotguns outside, mid and LF seem to creep in from off-axis. I begin to wonder if the term "reach" as applied to shotgun mics wasn't a word that marketing came up with. Sure the HF directionality is there with a shotgun, but if you're in any kind of street scene with cars, truck and busses, don't the off-axis LF they hear pretty much clobber what you're getting on-axis? I've used a CMC641 pretty effectively outside from 4-5 feet. (A surprise interview with a congressman on the west steps of the Capitol in DC. No shotgun in my back pocket that day, e.g. Famous last words: Just leave the shotgun in the truck, you won't need it today.") To my surprise, the CMC641 did just fine from 4-5 feet. Your thoughts? Thanks, Ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) " Sure the HF directionality is there with a shotgun,... with shotguns outside, mid and LF seem to creep in from off-axis.... Your thoughts?" the longer the tube, the lower the frequency the mic can remain directional ... some of today's interference tube mic's use acoustical magic to put a longer (acoustically) tube into a shorter (linear) mic... "reach" is seeming (aka apparently) increased because of side/rear rejection Edited November 5, 2013 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 The 816 has always sounded like Sennheiser did something to the high mids and HFs to crank them a little more, one of the reasons the mic can sound pretty bad in some situations (like close). I never liked the sound of the thing, or any really long shotgun, they've just been tools to reach for in somewhat desperate moments. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Ford Posted November 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Philip, Thanks for that. I was thinking in those moments where "quiet on the set" actually means the set is quiet (as in low ambient noise), then fine. But I really wonder about the quality of the "reach" issue when there's any off-axis noise; especially LF and MF noise. Like any typical downtown city street with cars, trucks, busses and industrial HVAC noises. I also wonder about sidelines or arena top placement for sports. A lot of that crowd noise is off-axis. Does it all smear into a sound field that our ears "buy" as crowd noise? Is there a better way to capture details from the sidelines and crowd walla from the rim? Regards, Ty Ford www.tyford.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jozzafunk Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Spent the day doing outdoor IVs and wildlife fx not long ago - cs3e sounded so much better than 816 on every occasion, and this was to grab sound from some quite distant sources - I had taken both to get a comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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