AlanK Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Anybody know what wireless & mics were used? The head mics were VERY well hidden but you could see the cords going down the back of the actors necks. I believe the sound was a mix of wireless & booms but I'm not sure. Certainly there was a lot of extraneous noise & some hiss -- I wasn't impressed! Thanks, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Albright Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 All wireless. And lots of hiss...looked like countryman and sennheisers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 The best lav mic doesn't cover up bad acting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 some have said even the casting could have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondelev Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Anyone know who mixed it? Imdb has no credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 The best lav mic doesn't cover up bad acting. Or lots of HVAC noise and noise from nasty HMI ballasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Albright Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 There was a really loud HVAC system in the studio, but I can't believe they would have let that run during the broadcast. The sets were lit with a ton of Vari-Lites. So no HMI ballasts, but hundreds of Vari-Lites making their own music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Ah Vari-Lites and not HMIs. Still... noisy lights. "The hills are alive... with the sound of HVAC and Vari-Lites." (I think Rodgers & Hammerstein would complain.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) " Ah Vari-Lites and not HMIs. Still... noisy lights. " and HVAC... like so many producers, they got a really good deal on a converted (even semi-converted) warehouse/rehearsal hall and kept the production under $10M... and some folks expect better from CL ?? Edited December 9, 2013 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 They shot at Grumman Studios in Bethpage, Long Island: http://grummanstudios.com/stages/ Funny how nowhere does it say "quiet" or "sound-proofed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 They shot at Grumman Studios in Bethpage, Long Island: http://grummanstudios.com/stages/ Funny how nowhere does it say "quiet" or "sound-proofed." I was there shooting a fair amount of the behind the scenes documentary - but not for the show. The place actually is fairly quite from outside noise. But there is no sound treatment on the inside - just a lot of metal for sound to bounce off. I think the biggest issue is all the crap that they brought in such as: Portable AC units, literally hundred (perhaps thousands) of vari-lights, several smoke machines with fans, 11 cameras moving around, two tecno-cranes, and a huge crew (who I am sure was super quite during the show). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Jack: " But there is no sound treatment on the inside - just a lot of metal for sound to bounce off. " yep: semi-converted warehouse syndrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanK Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Anybody notice that someone took a flash photo during the festival scene near the end of the show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 They're going to rebroadcast it prior to Christmas. Also, due to the ratings success, NBC has announced that they're planning to mount another Broadway musical next year. When last I read about it, they hadn't decided which one but they want it to similarly contain songs that people know well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Anyone remember the Disney/ABC made-for-TV version of Annie from 1999? Great cast (including Audra McDonald in one of her first national TV appearances…boy was/is she great), great performance, great production (& good ratings, I think). My kids LOVED it (they were little at the time): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_(1999_film) ABC followed that up with a couple other TV musicals that were pretty good. Doing the live thing was cool. I didn't watch, but I'll take everyone's word about the audio problems. And I'm told the cameras didn't match at all. So maybe next time things will go better. Hope so. Would love to see more good television productions of musicals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Steigerwald Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Interview with the director: Q. What was that persistent white noise or hissing sound? A. Sometimes it was the fountain. Sometimes it was just because of the nature of the show. Normally you would have boom mikes that would pick up the dialogue and different mikes that would pick up the music. [Last night] everything was wig mikes — basically there were little lavs [lavaliere microphones] that were mounted in people’s wigs. You had to have microphones open for dialogue, that was much softer, and then microphones for the music — there were so many people talking and then singing and then talking and then singing. It could have been that, just having so many microphones open. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/06/sound-of-music-director-on-what-went-right-and-wrong/?_r=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Orusa Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Good article. Now I want to watch the musical. Notice how the director seems to understand sound? She suggests next time to have one mix for just dialogue and one mix for singing with music. I imagine they might do a complete re-mix for the rebroadcast. Mark O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 NBC announced this afternoon it will repeat its The Sound of Music Live! on Saturday, Dec. 14, 8-11 PM ET/PT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 It's also on demand for free if you have Comcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Interview with the director: Q. What was that persistent white noise or hissing sound? A. Sometimes it was the fountain. Sometimes it was just because of the nature of the show. Normally you would have boom mikes that would pick up the dialogue and different mikes that would pick up the music. Funny, I heard the hiss and noise from the opening song with Maria all by herself, singing on the "mountain" set. I was there shooting a fair amount of the behind the scenes documentary - but not for the show. The place actually is fairly quiet from outside noise. But there is no sound treatment on the inside - just a lot of metal for sound to bounce off. I think the biggest issue is all the crap that they brought in such as: Portable AC units, literally hundred (perhaps thousands) of vari-lights, several smoke machines with fans, 11 cameras moving around, two tecno-cranes, and a huge crew (who I am sure was super quiet during the show). I hope they had a SUPER Technocrane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 AlanK: " I believe the sound was... " I'm still trying to fiigure out why we needed a second thread about exactly the same thing..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Rose Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm still trying to fiigure out why we needed a second thread about exactly the same thing..? Redundancy. What if the first thread stops working while we're reading it? Just don't mix them both at once; you'll get phasing. (Or, in the minds of some newbies: You flip the polarity of one thread, and you can null out all the noise.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Albright Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I was there shooting on the behind the scenes show, and when the fountain was running, it sounded like a fountain- not hissing or white noise. More like a big urinal. They talked about that being an issue. The biggest part of the HAVC was located directly over the mountain set, which is why Mark heard it so clearly right from the opening scene. The ground shook when it kicked on. Maybe they figured it was best to leave it on once it was established at the start ! I think the abundance of VariLites was the culprit ( and also made use of a boom impossible ). Sounds like the playback level of the music might have been incorrect too. The team who were micing everyone looked like pros, so unless a wig moved out of position, I doubt a mic was not were it was supposed to be. I guess sound proofing wasn't an issue when they were building F-14's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 ... I guess sound proofing wasn't an issue when they were building F-14's there. The place must be haunted because I could hear one of the F14 engines during the entire show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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