mikewest Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 We are shooting with two un-blimped 35mm cameras - I found out on the day. No dialogue just a guy hammering nails. Yep take 1 !!!!! Then the director asked if I was using a stereo boom !!!? In the afternoon shooting a guy using a hydraulic jack hammer in a building! No dialogue, but same comment from director! I asked the UPM to find someone else for day2!! Happy New Year mike German Commercial.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I must be crazy! I'd tell the guy, "give me ten minutes, and I'll get a stereo mic here immediately!" (I clearly have no self-respect.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Hi Mark I questioned him "Did you ask for one?" His reply was "it doesn't matter" I put a CUB-01 under the wood work and got some wilds later! Withe the jack hammer scenario he asked what kind of boom mike I was using !!!!!!!!!!!! Great to work with professionals eh!! Cheers mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Why not? You want a jackhammer in stereo? Ok. it might not get you what you imagine, but you're paying me, I'm here to give you what you want. I'm guessing you can't hear the unblimped cameras over a jack hammer, but i wouldn't know, I've never been in that situation. Personally i disagree with a lot of things in production, but I'm not in charge, so .... (and if i was I'd probably make the same mistakes ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McL Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Taking a page out of the Eric Toline school of sound and re-writing it, hope I would have recorded my mono mic to two channels during those wild tracks, labeled 'em 'stereo' and charged 'em extra for the very expensive stereo mic. That (seems to me) is business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Jan I love it!!! Even cooler would be to do it and then delay one of the track by 2-4ms and tell them it needs a very expensive plug in to decode it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Record one of the two tracks out of phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 5.1 surround idea just popped in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Taking a page out of the Eric Toline school of sound and re-writing it, hope I would have recorded my mono mic to two channels during those wild tracks, labeled 'em 'stereo' and charged 'em extra for the very expensive stereo mic. That (seems to me) is business. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I would of said, you want a few in Stereo...? No problem.. plugged in a seldom used AT 822, rolled a few and moved on to the next gig.... Simple enough... Loud cameras and all... It's not my movie or project... All you can do.. Is all you can do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 mike west: " I questioned him "Did you ask for one?" " I would have done my best to get one there (at the productions expense, + extra rental), or implemented the PlanB in Jan's post, including the charges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Thanks for the comments. This Director's misguided judgement did not consider: 1/ two unblimped 35mm cameras are not the best for usable audio. 2/ with no dialogue at all wild tracks of the sounds were the solution. 3/ raving at me was not the solution mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsnd Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 The better answer, (also the better answer to your surround recording discussion in another thread) is that when the people paying you request a specific thing, give it to them in some form or another. if they want a stereo mic, give them a stereo mic and charge accordingly. if they want a surround mic, give them a surround mic and charge accordingly. If it is something stupid, it's always good to discuss how or why they want what they want. When they insist, they are the ones paying you, it's their project, it's their money. Give them what they want! -Being profesional 101 by C.Calandro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted December 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I agree and always bring what is required. With commercial work I find I receive beforehand a script that may change, story boards that may not define how the shots will work and the expectation that I will turn up prepared. No meetings, no location reccy and do you really need a boom operator!! That's show business! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Tell them it is a mono jackhammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 The better answer, (also the better answer to your surround recording discussion in another thread) is that when the people paying you request a specific thing, give it to them in some form or another. if they want a stereo mic, give them a stereo mic and charge accordingly. if they want a surround mic, give them a surround mic and charge accordingly. If it is something stupid, it's always good to discuss how or why they want what they want. When they insist, they are the ones paying you, it's their project, it's their money. Give them what they want! -Being profesional 101 by C.Calandro If they ask for a piece of gear in the middle of the day, not much you can do. I usually carry some extra gear, but my stereo shotgun is not something I carry "just in case". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Tell them it is a mono jackhammer. Well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Flaitz Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 If they ask for a piece of gear in the middle of the day, not much you can do. I usually carry some extra gear, but my stereo shotgun is not something I carry "just in case". "Do you have comteks on you for the director?" -Nice, I'm prepared, good thing I always have a tx/3 rx in the backpack- "Sure do, it will be an additional rental cost of $40 and $15 for each additional receiver." "... You have them on you, and it's an additional $40 just to pull them out of the bag?" "Yes, it's not part of the basic kit rental, anything beyond that is an additional cost." "Serious...?" "Yes..." "Never mind, just tell them you don't have any." Never get another call from production company. Sometimes being prepared is annoying, though I'm sure I would have gotten a parallel reaction if I didn't bring them. "Why don't you carry comteks on you?" And never hear from them again... again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 If it's that kind of company, better off not working for them anyway. There are plenty of companies that pay fair rates and rent the gear they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 What johnpaul said. If you want to be a professional; work for professionals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Taking a page out of the Eric Toline school of sound and re-writing it, hope I would have recorded my mono mic to two channels during those wild tracks, labeled 'em 'stereo' and charged 'em extra for the very expensive stereo mic. That (seems to me) is business. I anxiously await a Business of Sound Seminar put on by Jan. My accountant and I would be very happy to attend! Cheers, R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Taking a page out of the Eric Toline school of sound and re-writing it, hope I would have recorded my mono mic to two channels during those wild tracks, labeled 'em 'stereo' and charged 'em extra for the very expensive stereo mic. That (seems to me) is business. This is what I call wit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jozzafunk Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Tell them it is a mono jackhammer. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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