dfisk Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I have the measurements for the Zaxcom fader module. I don't have a line drawing, though. I'd really love to see that, or even have a dummy unit. We are working a Nomad bag. Not sure if the 664 and Nomad will share the same bag or not, though. Scott Farr came by the shop today and we chatted for a long while. We learned a lot from him and are going to look at some of his ideas for future products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think Pascal's invention for dealing with the CL6 was brilliant. Basically a flap on the belly side of the bag that opens and creates a little secure pocket for the CL6 to sit, doesn't affect the configuration of the wireless at all. Of course, it doesn't allow you to have the CL6 bolted to the 664. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Why not try reaching out to Pascal and make him an offer on his design and save some trouble! He is a legit consultant after all and that design is very very nice and refined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'm always open to anything. Building bags and making them more suitable to our work is a passion. I'm already working on V2.0 of my bag... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Lewis Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Dave, i think the majority of users are not using a CL6, and to be honest, the 617 bag has taken care of that need. I feel you probably sell more 664 only bags. I am a CL6-user when reality calls, but don't carry more than 8 receivers (which is still ridiculous, and for the most part most of the stuff I do is a multi track panel where Im sitting down. Plus, with sound devices Un locking the 7-12 channels for use without the CL-6 there will be less CL-6 users. There is a small market for that on reality shows where uneducated producers want 12 wireless, and where that should be done at a cart. In fast paced reality if find the CL6 much easier to mix with, but thats another conversation. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Mc Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Another Cl6'less user here with no plans to add it. Currently using the portabrace option which works well but could defitinely be improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I believe that a bag should not make space for a CL6 but should give you some way of temporarily adding one for the once in while shoot that might requires it. Thats why I came up with the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I thought the CL6 had to be physically attached to the 664. Am I wrong on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Mayer Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I thought the CL6 had to be physically attached to the 664. Am I wrong on that? Ideally, it should be. The CL-6 header cable is designed to be protected by the two units. It is nowhere near as robust as the CL-8 USB connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't think I'd want to use my CL6 without it being bolted to the 664 in the prescribed manner--I'd be worried about that ribbon cable. Maybe if there was a way to extend that cable (accessory idea for SD there) then a 2-pocket bag would work, but in any case I (and many others) have the "+" config covered other ways, and are looking for the smallest package for the 664 alone that can be made. I too would not like it to have "outrigger" pockets that would make the rig wider. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I have used my CL6 with my 664 with it not attached to it. If it is velcroed correctly and a little care is used, there is no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagosounddude Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'm in the minority here, but I would love the bag to fit 664 + cl-6. Since I have the 633 now, i have no need to take off the CL-6. I don't feel that 617 is a good bag...at all, its a floppy mess, that has just enough room, D rings, pockets, etc, to make it super annoying. However Pascals bag looks very nice. The header cable is a concern. I am sure there is a solution to be found, and maybe from Pascals last message he has already found the solution. I have used my CL6 with my 664 with it not attached to it. If it is velcroed correctly and a little care is used, there is no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Childers Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 This is exciting! I have been waiting for a bag design that is more intended to be used with more wires(6-12) and no cl-6...or the cl-6 part would be the modular part. I love the 633 bag so really looking forward to see where y'all land on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Use mine without CL-6 a lot, as well. Would be veeeey interested in a bag that was a home to 664 only... Would that be tapping into a niche market, as Petrol seems to have bags that fit a 664 with a CL-6? Man, if you've designed a bag that stands up, has east access to media, AND fits only a 664, you'll have cornered the market! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 And then K-Tek coming with a bag without the CL-6 option and the users said: "Doesn't have enough space to place the receivers front of the mixer". Read, search and design carefully the new bag K-Tek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 And then K-Tek coming with a bag without the CL-6 option and the users said: "Doesn't have enough space to place the receivers front of the mixer". Read, search and design carefully the new bag K-Tek. HA! That's always what happens to us manufacturers. You can't please everyone, but we try our best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis OB Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Just to add my own input... I'm another user not using, or planning to use, a CL6. In my opinion, the current petrol bag would work well for anyone using a CL6 and stuffing it with 8-12 wireless (although I wouldn't like to have this as a bag setup myself). Right now, I find the Petrol bag pretty awkward as it seems to exaggerate what is already a pretty big mixer by adding to its size, and especially it's width. What I (and I suspect many others also) would be keen to see is a bag more suited to a 664 and 6 wireless that's a lot more comfortable to wear and includes the well thought out layout of the Stingray bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 how about Camo, for all those reality mixers trying to stay out of sight..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 He heard you, and replied to you the first time Mike! So, in a sense, your question has been discussed before, make a search! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordi Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Chalk another in the "doesn't have a CL6" column. I can't see myself buying one either, just for the dedicated transport buttons and pretty led meters. I use low-profile XLRs on the inputs courtesy of Mr Toline, and plan to get some more for the output section. I don't really need to mess with the input side much once it is built, other than to route my headphone connector. If there was a low-profile zipper flap that could offer a cable hole for the boom cable and the headphones (I use boom on channel 6) then that would be all the left side would see from me. Something other than the giant elephant ears on the Porta-Brace MXC664/CL6 (that I have currently) for the outside edges please. You have already mentioned the other things that I would want - access to the cards, standing up, cables internally, etc. I built my 664 together (briefly) with all the receivers and the power all gaffed together into one unit outside the Porta-Brace bag, that was the only way that I could use the non-structured MXC bag. The very next day, I had a 2-track day and needed the wireless for something else. Obviously keeping it all stuck together didn't work. Having the ability to swap RX or transmitters in and out relatively easily (yet they don't slide out on their own in the fire of production) would also be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shug Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hey there, another 664 user in search of the right bag to be used without the CL-6. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm a bit late to the thread, but I don't use the CL-6 either. I have the Petrol bag and rate it a C minus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proctor Trivette Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I may be late as well responding, but I don't use the CL-6 as well. Can't wait to see the new k-tek 664 bag Dave! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micboyle Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I actually held up my purchase of a 664 because a bag without the space for a Cl-6 was not available. What I have customized that carries a 664, 6 wireless, power pocket and cable harness works for now. It appears obvious from the posts there will be a suitable market for a smart 664 non-CL-6 bag that can handle jobs on the run. Count me in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gilchrist Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 No CL6 here, I'm with my pal Micboyle. Best regards, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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