fieldmixer Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Any excuse to have another viewing) http://digitaljournal.com/entertainment/op-ed-dr-strangelove-still-hilarious-and-potent-after-fifty-years/article/367880 http://flavorwire.com/436029/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-dr-strangelove/view-all/ http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/bombs-away-kubricks-dr-strangelove-celebrates-50th-anniversary/ http://theweek.com/article/index/255560/why-dr-strangelove-is-more-depressingly-relevant-than-ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Peter Bull, who played the Russian Ambassador, writes in one of his autobiographical books about the original final scene, in which all the planes are turned back and a massive food-fight ensues, turning the war room into an unholy mess. (Check out the tables full of food off to one side.) Kubrick had a change of heart and required the ending to be re-shot as it now stands, which necessitated a major clean-up of the set. And of course, when Reagan became POTUS, he was devastated to find that there was no war room in the White House. A brilliant movie and one of my favourites. John Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 A brilliant movie and one of my favourites. John Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Plus 1... Seen it many times. Alway blows me away. Hard to believe it and the Beatles hit America at the same time. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I lived in an area of the U.K. that served as a base for the V-Bombers that formed part of our nuclear defences, hence we were a primary target and had regular air-raid drills during the early years of the 1960s and the film society at my secondary school produced a short film charmingly entitled "Four Minutes To Die" which didn't exactly give me restful nights. On the subject of Strangelove, I read somewhere that there was extensive use of wireless mics for much of this movie. This must have been pretty rare in the 1960s, I would imagine. Anyone have further knowledge? John Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 On the subject of Strangelove, I read somewhere that there was extensive use of wireless mics for much of this movie. This must have been pretty rare in the 1960s, I would imagine. Anyone have further knowledge? I don't think this is the case. In the early 60's there were very few choices for wireless mic sets. I think someone is confusing the story, which is true, that Kubrick used wireless mics exclusively on Clockwork Orange. Kubrick did employ a technique which many of us have used, having an open "air mic" to mix in with the rather un-natural, zero-perspective lavs. The majority of Clockwork Orange was recorded this way on an early 2-track Nagra, providing the means to mix the air mic in with the lavs in post. Someone else may be able to fine-tune this history beyond what I have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Even the trailer for Strangelove is better than most films: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Found where I read about the mics: not sure where that info came from though. http://www.moviediva.com/MD_root/reviewpages/MDDrStrangelove.htm John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just a point of clarification, body mics don't always mean radio mics... We use to hard wired lavs a lot in the old days and it worked well. I have no idea about what system was used on Dr Strangelove. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted February 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 For those that would want to visit or revisit this timeless masterpiece, and several others, this box set is absolutely fantastic. Also makes a great gift. At a great price point too. Paid quite a bit more that this. http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Kubrick-Visionary-Filmmaker-Collection/dp/B00GGAK0FS/ref=pd_cp_mov_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Mein fuhrer... I can VALK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Blankenship Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 For those that would want to visit or revisit this timeless masterpiece, and several others, this box set is absolutely fantastic. Also makes a great gift. At a great price point too. Paid quite a bit more that this. http://www.amazon.com/Visionary-Filmmaker-Collection-Blu-ray-Stanley/dp/B004MW57KA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1391322171&sr=8-7&keywords=stanley+kubrick+box That looks like a great set, but ironically, it doesn't include Dr. Strangelove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Ah, that explains things. Thank you for pointing that out. As a matter of interest, which microphones did you use? Best wishes, John Just a point of clarification, body mics don't always mean radio mics... We use to hard wired lavs a lot in the old days and it worked well. I have no idea about what system was used on Dr Strangelove. CrewC Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 I didn't start until the mid 70's but in my era it was the Sony ECM 50 lav that was most commonly used. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 That looks like a great set, but ironically, it doesn't include Dr. Strangelove. The Special edition version of the collection that John mentioned does contain Strangelove and some Strangelove-specific extras, but it's out of print. The Essential Collection version, still available on DVD at least, looks like it has all Stragelovliness too: http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Kubrick-The-Essential-Collection/dp/B004O724M2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted February 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 That looks like a great set, but ironically, it doesn't include Dr. Strangelove. wow. good eye. that's strange, I own two copies of the blu ray box set and they include dr strangelove...I watched it last night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldmixer Posted February 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Upon closer inspection they are different but disappointingly similar. Looks like there previously existed a "limited edition collection". As opposed to the "visionary filmmaker collection"... I was fooled. My bad. I found some available here. Still worth it IMO. http://www.amazon.ca/Stanley-Kubrick-Collection-Spartacus-Strangelove/dp/B004VDL7ZE/ref=pd_cp_d_0/180-7479470-2254846 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 soundmanjohn: " As a matter of interest, which microphones did you use? " I remember using ECM-50's on Magnum P.I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ah, Magnum P.I. Before it came over to the UK, each time I was in the US, it became the must-watch show in the evening before going out to eat. Much respect! John Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 RCA BK6b's, Shure 571s, and there was an EV dynamic lav I can't recall the name of, all used hardwired, even for walking shots (cable taped to actor's shoe, they dragged the cable with a helper keeping them from getting tangled. That was SOP even into the mid 1970s. We considered the Sony ECM50PS way bad high tech when it arrived--so much better sounding, so much higher gain (esp for ultra crappy mic pres in Shure M67 mixers or 3/4" porto VCRs) and so much easier to hide. But the actors still had to drag cables.... philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Great Phil!! Well 50 years ago I worked for a live sound company in very central London West End musicals and big fashion shows were our living I used a very simple radio mike rented from Jennings Musical Industries (maybe the VOX company) Used it at the Albert Hall at the Daily Mirror 50th bash Transmitter level set too hi and the house manager complained about distortion - early days!!! We used the first Audio Ltd VHF radio mikes on musicals with Fostex lavalier (round the neck) mikes Our mainstay were SM57's then we moved on to AKG C60's Great days in Soho in the swinging 60's!!!!!!!!!!!! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Well 50 years ago I worked for a live sound company in very central London Bishops, Stage-Sound or Theatre Projects? Regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I still have a BK6b (nostalgia) and a Shure 571 (talkback in the CR). I can't recall what happened to my ECM50s but I might have given them away…or they might be buried somewhere in the shop (more like). philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundmanjohn Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 At least you could repair an ECM-50, even if it was a bit of a bugger to hide. Todays lavs are basically expendable: trade off is that they sound _so_ much better! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Wow John well spotted I was at Stage-Sound from late 1964 to 1966 when I moved to ATV Network ATV had developed it's own radio mikes that were the envy of the local film community compact re-chargeble transmitters but the receivers were the size of a microwave oven and complete with a huge VHF ground plane aerial. Geoff Blundell at Audio Ltd developed a VHF radio mic introduced in 1965 initially used for theatre work and it's first outing for film work and was alleged to be used for Kubrick's 2001 to overcome mike cables breaking on a revolving set! It was an excellent R/F design with no compansion These mike were adopted by Joe (?) at the London Palladium and I owned 3 channels when I first went free-lance in 1978. So I have worked with radio mikes for 49 now! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Wow John well spotted I was at Stage-Sound from late 1964 to 1966 when I moved to ATV Network ATV had developed it's own radio mikes that were the envy of the local film community compact re-chargeble transmitters but the receivers were the size of a microwave oven and complete with a huge VHF ground plane aerial. Geoff Blundell at Audio Ltd developed a VHF radio mic introduced in 1965 initially used for theatre work and it's first outing for film work and was alleged to be used for Kubrick's 2001 to overcome mike cables breaking on a revolving set! It was an excellent R/F design with no compansion These mike were adopted by Joe (?) at the London Palladium and I owned 3 channels when I first went free-lance in 1978. So I have worked with radio mikes for 49 now! Mike Whoa--pix of these things, please! philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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