Solid Goldberger Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ https://www.gothamsound.com/product/970-audio-recorderplayer Looks great! I predict they are gonna sell a LOT of these, especially at that price point, though I hope in the future it is offered with a CF option, even if only at a limited track count. e. edit: looks like they already have that in mind... http://www.sounddevices.com/products/pixcaddycf/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 only 64 tracks ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Radlauer Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 only 64 tracks ?? Yep! And we'll have a new thread for each one! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Yep! And we'll have a new thread for each one! ;-) This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 let the redesigning begin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Gustavsson Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I'm going to get a 970 for each microphone. It is the time of redundancy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Karlsson Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Awesome Reality Producer: "Weeeee, let's have all 64 cast members wired up!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Capulli Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 what bag should I get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Isaacs Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ https://www.gothamsound.com/product/970-audio-recorderplayer Looks great! I predict they are gonna sell a LOT of these, especially at that price point, though I hope in the future it is offered with a CF option, even if only at a limited track count. e. edit: looks like they already have that in mind... http://www.sounddevices.com/products/pixcaddycf/ Yes ... the 970 already supports CF card recording via the CF caddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfisk Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 what bag should I get? The bag we are making for the Nagra-D should work with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampasound Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 why 64 and not 71? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Awesome Reality Producer: "Weeeee, let's have all 64 cast members wired up!" I wouldn't mind getting that rental rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 why 64 and not 71? 64 is a magic number for lots of computer based engineering (2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2), so it figures. Just because it can do 64 tracks doesn't mean you have to use all 64 tracks. I can see many applications where 8, 10, 12, or maybe 16 tracks would be more than enough. I bet the cost difference between allowing 64 Dante tracks vs. 8 tracks was a few dollars at best, since it's pretty much mostly software. Here's a closer view: This appears to me to just be a PIX designed solely for audio. What I'd like to know is how much cheaper it is than the PIX-based machines. On the surface, it looks to me like this could be an excellent cart-only sound recorder, particularly for those who need lots of channels and need to record to multiple drives (or cards) simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I wouldn't mind getting that rental rate Producer: "We're providing all Azden wireless to you, with zinc-carbon batteries. Is that OK? And by the way, we're shooting with 8 cameras and want 8 different channels sent to each camera." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Producer: "We're providing all Azden wireless to you, with zinc-carbon batteries. Is that OK? And by the way, we're shooting with 8 cameras and want 8 different channels sent to each camera." Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickreich Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 why 64 and not 71? 64 channels is the larger of the two standard channel counts for MADI. Many consoles used in the broadcast world would have one, or more, MADI streams going out to a recorder. This may be a little over-the-top for most on this board, but in my world (live concert recording/broadcast) this is extremely interesting. Seems way better than the JoeCo MADI or Dante 64 channel boxes, and about the same price. Way cheaper than ProToolsHD with a MADI i/o. I think it will be huge in the Reality production world too. It's ability to bridge the Dante and MADI worlds alone are an extra feature I need, and was about to spend about half it's purchase price on another product to do that. Time for a re-think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampasound Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Good to know all these details (as they are new to me!)...my comment was purely and purposely nonsense as to emulate the usual re-designing process that goes on this board! But again thanks for the useful post (unlike mine!). And thanks sound devices for keeping up with new products for our community...although I don't see myself needing this machine anytime soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 On the surface, it looks to me like this could be an excellent cart-only sound recorder, particularly for those who need lots of channels and need to record to multiple drives (or cards) simultaneously. I agree. The only thing I'll be curious to see is how track routing and metadata will be handled. I'm really fond of having an easily accessible pre-programmed "notes" field ala Deva. I also like the ability to dynamically route my inputs to tracks in the recorder. I suspect it will be nearly identical to the Pix series, but I haven't had a lot of hands on time with those machines. I would have a pre order in now if they had de-coupled the inputs 1/2 from the DB25 inputs. Not that I foresee ever needing them, but I've always hoped for a recorder with 8 plus "Mix" analog ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Isaacs Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I agree. The only thing I'll be curious to see is how track routing and metadata will be handled. I'm really fond of having an easily accessible pre-programmed "notes" field ala Deva. I also like the ability to dynamically route my inputs to tracks in the recorder. I suspect it will be nearly identical to the Pix series, but I haven't had a lot of hands on time with those machines. I would have a pre order in now if they had de-coupled the inputs 1/2 from the DB25 inputs. Not that I foresee ever needing them, but I've always hoped for a recorder with 8 plus "Mix" analog ins. Any of the line, AES, MADI or Dante inputs can be routed to any record track. You can edit scene/take/notes track names and more before, during or after recording and all edits are automatically rippled to all simultaneous drives on the fly (up to 4 drives). There are several BWF file name formats including, scene-take, reel+incrementing number, reel-scene-take, + more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Tuzo Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Thanks Paul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Two other important facts: the machine's list price is $4495, which I think is a bargain (more than $1000 cheaper than the PIX-260), and it weighs 1.5 pounds. That's pretty stunning. I'd be surprised if anybody could compete with a cart-based recorder that could do more for less money. Heck, compare this to the choices we had 7-8 years ago, and it's even more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddho Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Awesome Reality Producer: "Weeeee, let's have all 64 cast members wired up!" ahhh had to do that already back in 2004 on a German reality show with 3 Tascam MX2424s and 3 more for backup!!! serious weight, cables, clocking issues, work flow nightmare... now someone has to (finally) come up with a portable high track digital mixer (i would be happy with 16) which can run on 12V and things will look brighter for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 ahhh had to do that already back in 2004 on a German reality show with 3 Tascam MX2424s and 3 more for backup!!! serious weight, cables, clocking issues, work flow nightmare... Doh, I remember the MX2424's, which I think were about $8000 ten years ago. Great remote control, but the support for metadata and all that stuff was nonexistent (as I recall). I can also remember people trying to use multiple DA88's or ADATs to do high track-count sessions... not fun. The DA88's were workhorses provided you didn't need more than 8 channels, but the later DVD-RAM machines were so much faster and cheaper to use. It's amazing to consider what an evolution we've seen in audio recording in only 15 years, going from DAT to the original Deva to everything that's followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundbadge Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sound Devices please make a usable I/o control panel for this thing!!! I do not want big yammie 01V96 mixer on my cart at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddho Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's amazing to consider what an evolution we've seen in audio recording in only 15 years, going from DAT to the original Deva to everything that's followed. yes, big and fast changes for the better... :-) found a couple of old photos of that MX2424 setup back in 2004. thank god those days are over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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