VASI Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 But you still have 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 AES and ZaxNet. You lost two digital inputs, but it's not my point. My point is to have as much you can the connections simple since this two devices going to "communicate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think Vasileios brings up an excellent point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ao Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 You can not use all AES on Nomad if you have zaxnet enabled. It sucks that the size is different then Nomad. If they are trying to match both they should have stuck to the same size. Makes it easier to build your bag. And again qrx size shels for the modules will make this wireless more appealing. I can even go for DEVA size Nomad/RX12 one unit no cables... perhaps an rx8 is in the cards, as you wished for earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Any news ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 What happened to 6-8 weeks??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 We ran into a technical issue that has pushed us back a bit. All is progressing. We will announce a delivery date when we are closer to that day. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Glenn: " issue that has pushed us back a bit. " no wonder manufacturers are reluctant to be specific, even with all the incessant nagging here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Weaver Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 What are you doing when your Venue quits? Go to another setup (individual receivers) I imagine. Nah. Pull out another venue chassis and slap the VRT's in it. Now with the new RX12 at the alleged $12,000-$13,000 price point: Did they allude to if that was for the chassis alone or fully loaded with receivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Now with the new RX12 at the alleged $12,000-$13,000 price point: Did they allude to if that was for the chassis alone or fully loaded with receivers? When the product was revealed at NAB'14, the chassis alone was announced to cost around $3000 and each RF module around $1700: The chassis does power distribution, RF distribution, processing and filtration. It's sort of the "brain" of the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Weaver Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 When the product was revealed at NAB'14, the chassis alone was announced to cost around $3000 and each RF module around $1700: The chassis does power distribution, RF distribution, processing and filtration. It's sort of the "brain" of the whole thing. That's not so bad considering each module can do two all digital radios with neverclip, and remote control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 When the product was revealed at NAB'14, the chassis alone was announced to cost around $3000 and each RF module around $1700: The chassis does power distribution, RF distribution, processing and filtration. It's sort of the "brain" of the whole thing. So, a full RX12 costs $13,200 Six QRX 200 costs $15,000 Not bad for 12 digital wireless system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yea but the qrx is not as heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yea but the qrx is not as heavy. Six QRX: 1070 grams RX12: ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Most of the weight is in the chassis I believe and so if you are able to put together 6 QRXs, antenna distribution (Micplexer?), DC distribution and package it all in the beautifully functional and lightweight frame that Rado has built, you will probably have something lighter weight. The other main thing to consider with the RX-12 is the integration software of centralized frequency scanning and setup vs. having to address each individual receiver. I think it is a real bargain and provides a level of functional integration that is really not available by any other system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Most of the weight is in the chassis I believe and so if you are able to put together 6 QRXs, antenna distribution (Micplexer?), DC distribution and package it all in the beautifully functional and lightweight frame that Rado has built, you will probably have something lighter weight. The other main thing to consider with the RX-12 is the integration software of centralized frequency scanning and setup vs. having to address each individual receiver. I think it is a real bargain and provides a level of functional integration that is really not available by any other system. I agree. I think Jeff nails every point that I could think of when comparing it against just getting individual QRX200 receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Most of the weight is in the chassis I believe and so if you are able to put together 6 QRXs, antenna distribution (Micplexer?), DC distribution and package it all in the beautifully functional and lightweight frame that Rado has built, you will probably have something lighter weight. The other main thing to consider with the RX-12 is the integration software of centralized frequency scanning and setup vs. having to address each individual receiver. I think it is a real bargain and provides a level of functional integration that is really not available by any other system. I love how levels are represented on the rx-12. The qrx -20 line leaves a lot to be desired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 But with the individual receivers you have much greater flexibility, as you can use them in the bag or on the cart. It may be possible to put the RX12 in the bag, but it will probably be a bit if a struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Have tho opportunity to see a prototype of the RX12 and it look a very beautiful device. IMHO, the only bad things are: 1) it is a little larger than a Deva/Fusion/Nomad recorder, just a few cm, but it should have been more compact to have a setup with matched dimensions; 2) it doesn't have Zaxnet antenna. So, if you have a Deva/Fusion recorder (like me) you have to buy a zaxnet provided device to send remote controls, etc (IFB200?); 3) it should have been better if output connectors were on the left side, considering that generally AES inputs are on the left side of the recorders. That said, I'm looking forward for it to be available. v. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLouder Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 But with the individual receivers you have much greater flexibility, as you can use them in the bag or on the cart. It may be possible to put the RX12 in the bag, but it will probably be a bit if a struggle It's got to be smaller than 6 qrx's and a multiplexer or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLouder Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I still would love to hear a release date or what the final street price is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 But with the individual receivers you have much greater flexibility, as you can use them in the bag or on the cart. It may be possible to put the RX12 in the bag, but it will probably be a bit if a struggle Of course with individual receivers you have a lot more flexibility. I'm not a Lectro user but it seems clear that the Venue system Lectro users use (either full size on the cart or the "compact" Venue in a bag) does not provide any flexibility. Don't most people have individual receivers AND some sort of all-in-one integrated box as well? As far as fitting in a bag being a "struggle" --- the RX-12 was designed specifically to go in the bag (without a struggle) so I really don't see that as an obstacle. Sure, it would be nice if it were more smaller and lighter but it isn't. People struggled with the 664 when it came out (bigger, wider, heavier) but somehow everyone who has a 664 seems to have made it work in the bag without too much difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Of course with individual receivers you have a lot more flexibility. I'm not a Lectro user but it seems clear that the Venue system Lectro users use (either full size on the cart or the "compact" Venue in a bag) does not provide any flexibility. Don't most people have individual receivers AND some sort of all-in-one integrated box as well? As far as fitting in a bag being a "struggle" --- the RX-12 was designed specifically to go in the bag (without a struggle) so I really don't see that as an obstacle. Sure, it would be nice if it were more smaller and lighter but it isn't. People struggled with the 664 when it came out (bigger, wider, heavier) but somehow everyone who has a 664 seems to have made it work in the bag without too much difficulty.I'm not comparing the RX12 to the Venue. I'm comparing it to the Octopack or the corresponding product from Zaxcom where you can use the same receivers in either in the rack or individually in the bag. I don't know the actual size of the RX12, sorry I criticized it prematurely. It's just that for me, and at such a price point, I'll always prefer the product with the greatest flexibility. There seems to be the "risk" that I might need the RX12 and individual QRXs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Get a demo of the RX12 in action and you will see how much easier it will make your life. Say you get to a new location in the morning and need to rescan&retune everything. The RX12 really shines there. Slight similarity, I found the Lectro Venue to make life a lot easier than tuning 6 individual receivers. The RX12 takes it to another level by tuning the transmitters for you via Zaxnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 sorry I critized it prematurely - Not only you and not only for this product. This is a common "practice" from everyone (including me) here. The tongue (or hand) run faster from mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 vale: " the only bad things are: " there are no bad things... if it did not exist, maybe that would be the bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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