Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 I am excited to start my next project with my brand new Sound Devices Pix 970 and Audinate Dante! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 you rock, pioneer... break a leg, and do keep us all posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Congrats. I'll be interested as to how well it works in the real world. If it is like SD's other gear, I'm sure quite well. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Love the T-Shirt! Incredibly cool. We expect a full report on the 970! Do you plan to control it with an iPad via PixNet, or just go it manually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Pixnet will be running. I'll control it either that way or it's wireless keyboard or manually - whichever gets it done faster. The T-shirt was made in 2010 after a conversation with Glenn Sanders at NAB. I guess it was a prophetic discussion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 BTW, I think we are are relieved to see you looking so well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Goldberger Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hey Richard, Just curious what (if any) recorder you'll pair this with for "breakaway" shoots (Car rigs, etc), or will you be able to run your other PIX recorder with a small mixer? e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Richard, can you overdub with it ? J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Richard, can you overdub with it ? J.D. more appropriate question: do you typically do overdubbing on production sound ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Probably not for production sound so much, but I do music recording as well and I'd like that feature. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Probably not for production sound so much, but I do music recording as well and I'd like that feature. CrewC Yea J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 more appropriate question: do you typically do overdubbing on production sound ?? Do you normally require that many tracks on production sound? Seems this recorder is geared towards more than just dialog recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 WE: " Seems this recorder is geared towards more than just dialog recording. " not if you want a separate track, not just for every mic, but for every line in a scene... sadly, the system seems to be clamoring for more, and more, tracks. in another recent thread, some folks were poo-phooing the new NAGRA 7 for being only two tracks ... and now folks are wanting overdubbing, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Another Zaxcom sell lost because they've abandoned the cart recorders in favor of the bag guys. ....IN COMING!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrd456 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Needs overdubbing to record music----guess what, music is more fun than recording yammering. J.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Needs overdubbing to record music----guess what, music is more fun than recording yammering. J.D. That's true for me and JD who has also spent decades recording actors, someone who has recorded music for decades might like actors better. Hard to say. As for the OP, can't wait for the real world reports from RL and I'm sure those who follow him into the high track count recorders. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickreich Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 There's quite a spread of work in between Scripted Drama production sound and the world of contemporary produced music, where you need more than 8 tracks, but you don't need 'overdubbing'. Reality TV is often un-mixable live and is a big and growing market which, I assume is the core target SD were trying to service here. My much smaller world of live Theatre and Concert recording is the same - we need the most reliable way available to capture multi-track audio with solid timecode and sync facilities, in the smallest space. All our work ends up on ProTools or another DAW in the end, but they are not the best idea for location capture. If you are wanting Overdubbing, you are probably not in a 'one chance to capture a real-time event' type situation. There's a raft of products (like DAWs) out there to suit you better than this or it's competitor, the JoeCo BBR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Beautiful set-up, Scott. I'm amazed how quickly the 970 seems to be catching on. I have to admit, the price is incredible and the features are very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 When I'm in a 'Run-N'-Gun" situation, I'll stick to my Petrol bag with a Deva 5 and a Field Venue. Not much OTS anymore, either Versaflex or it will be on my mini-cart. I'm really surprised at the confusion, yes by some, about the new breed of 'high-track' recorders. My primary decision to go with the Pix 970 is because I wanted to make the switch to Dante, go totally digital and eliminate a huge amount of interconnecting cabling. I also wanted to get away from my dissatisfaction with Zaxcom, who have dug their heels in and refused to come up with a Dante or even Madi machine, after more than two years of the Sound Devices Pix brand. Over dubbing as stated by others is not a requirement in our business. Pro Tools is perfect for that. By going Dante I eliminate the kluge of 8 AES and 8 Analog sends to a Deva 16, for example. It is not that I am on shows that require 16 tracks at all. But I have the capability to do so with 1 Cat 6 cable from my Yamaha 01V96 with ease. Lately, on shows with a large cast and Music Playback requirements I've been recording at least 10 tracks. On a Deva 5 that means 8 AES and 2 Analog. On my next show, it means that I can now dedicate specific tracks for the lead cast and keep it that way for 4 and a half months. I'm also helping the Post Sound Department by not having to juggle track assignments. The demands on production are getting larger and so are track counts, even on feature films. It's the future, embrace it. Here are my channel assignments for my next project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 So is increasing availability of tracks decreasing/changing perspective on booms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lightstone, CAS Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 If I or any Mixer can record a show with Booms only, we'll do it. In today's production environment two, even three cameras is the rule. Wide, Wider and Super tight makes using a boom in every setup very difficult. So, increasing use of two plus cameras, no rehearsals, hand held, no discipline is the reason; not increasing availability of tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ugg..3 cameras. And in 1 cam world, increasing use of 4k for HD...shooting wide, creating CU in post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 So, increasing use of two plus cameras, no rehearsals, hand held, no discipline is the reason; not increasing availability of tracks. The lack of discipline on the part of the producers is very discouraging. I'm still bewildered at the lack of rehearsal time that goes on, at least on my jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I like the simplicity of the connection of so many channels between mixer and recorder very much with this thing--I was really impressed with just how many cables Richard eliminated from his cart while increasing his track count. Each of those cables is a point of potential failure, and adds weight and confusion--good riddance to them. I'm starting to look for a very small Dante mixer with sliders to be the front end for a Pixie for a super small music recording rig. What might really rock would be an SD 664 Mk2 that with the CL6 could record 12+2+2 from Dante as an option…. philp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I like the simplicity of the connection of so many channels between mixer and recorder very much with this thing--I was really impressed with just how many cables Richard eliminated from his cart while increasing his track count. Each of those cables is a point of potential failure, and adds weight and confusion--good riddance to them. ... On the other side of things; On the Dante, just one point of failure takes out all the tracks. Just playing devil's advocate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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