Matt Geldof Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Does anyone use Sony NP-F batteries in smaller bag setups? I'd like to hear about different BDS setups with different sizes and brands of NP-F type batteries and how they are working out. In my particular case, who makes a good, reasonably priced, battery sled, for NP-F (with or without distribution unit) that will work in conjunction with two Lectrosonics SMA's in the bag? (both cam hop TX units set to 50mw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent R. Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hawk woods is great for that. Used it with some Chinese nick offs. Worked perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordi Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I just bought exactly what you are asking for, for exactly the same purpose. Cynthia Harris at Pro-Sound in NYC can set you up with the same adapter, it was the Hawk-Woods DV-Aux2S IIRC, and it was like $100 or so. VERY reasonable, this is a sled with 2 switched hirose outputs on it that are regulated to 12V output. I haven't tested it for more than a quick power-up-for-fun yet, so I don't know if the voltage display on the Lectro will cycle down as the power comes out of the battery... Or if it is a "switching" power supply that will always show 12v no matter what the input voltage is. My plan anyway was to use an NP-F550 or larger battery anyway so it would make a full day easily. The average alkaline 9V is about 200 mAh, ipowers are ~550mAh nominal. Thinking about my 211 receivers, they last about 7.5 hours (tested) on some used ipower batteries, and easily only about 3 hours on alkalines. I did the run-flat ipower test without giving them anything to do (no TX or audio) and indoors while the alkaline time was in actual service on an outdoor gig. BUT... If you consider that the batteries are in parallel for 1100mAh on the ipowers and the NP-F550 is something like 3500mAh... I think you'd hit a full day fairly easily without it ever dropping dead on either of us, even with 2 receivers sucking off that one battery. I already run with the Sony NP-F batteries (Also called the L-type for reasons I don't know) in my bag, with a dual-battery Hawk-Woods that has 4 Hirose and a "flying lead" hirose which is full-voltage instead of the regulated 12v. That is better for connecting directly to a 633 or the like, so you can monitor actual voltage. While you could use the 4 regulated outlets to directly power your other bag stuff, I chose instead to only use the flying lead into a Battery Bud, so I can swap out the power feed from either the battery or a brick if I am not moving and can sit near a power outlet. I also can monitor the voltage on my lectros instead of just on the 633. That dual-shoe Hawk-Woods was the DV-SQN4S adapter, and IIRC, Pro-Sound sold it to me for like $160 or so. I can't answer on battery brands so much yet, I have "Impact" (some knockoff) and "Ikan" (another) and Genuine Sony... And one genuine just outright quit charging on me after being in storage for a while. The knockoffs have been just overall cheap - thin plastic, weak connectors... I've fixed them and superglued them back together and they seem to be holding up, but I don't remember where I got them all. Amazon has a bunch of different options and reviews are all over the map. "Wasabi power" seems decently rated by people now, but I haven't bought any to try them out. I have enough batteries to do 1.5 full days without recharging as it is... And there is always a power outlet at the hotel for my pelican, so I'm waiting to buy more batteries for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Kersten Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah I also use the dual-shoe Hawk-Woods / DV-SQN4S adapter to power my Sonosax R4 and 4 audio ltd receivers. Very nice and compact and do not need to change batteries during the day! Would powering a 664 work with these sony NP-F batteries or do they lack the juice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Geordi: " Or if it is a "switching" power supply that will always show 12v no matter what the input voltage is " do you mean: Or if it is a "switching" regulated power supply that will always show output 12v no matter what the input voltage is ? " The average alkaline 9V is about 200 mAh, ipowers are ~550mAh nominal. " The average alkaline 9V is about 560 mAh, ipowers are ~520mAh nominal; carbon Zinc are around 400mAh, NiCad ~120mAh, NiMH run from ~200-300mAh Edited July 31, 2014 by studiomprd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbiesodd Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I have been using the DV-SQN4S from Hawkwoods for a couple of years now and I love it. I have two types of batteries that I use: the NPF960s - for when I am not running around or when I absolutely need consistent juice and cannot swap, and the NPF770s - which are lighter for run/gun type situations. I buy the highest mwH 770 knock-offs available and they last me (usually) until lunch running a Nomad 12 (w/ zaxnet) and 4 SRBs. Cheers, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Another fan of the Hawk Woods DV-blah-blah here, very good piece of kit, and a good alternative to NP1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I have a DV-SQN4S for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Robinson Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Big fan of the DV-SQN4S and it's regulated 12v outputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam White Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I have a DV-SQN4S for sale Rado - why did you sell? What are you using instead, now? I use an Ikan AC107-S as my power in bag (633, SRb, BDSv4u). It works but it's a tad flimsy. Wondering if the dual slot hawk woods would be a nice upgrade. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 inspire-energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbiesodd Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 I use an Ikan AC107-S as my power in bag (633, SRb, BDSv4u). It works but it's a tad flimsy. Wondering if the dual slot hawk woods would be a nice upgrade. Adam Adam - I have an unused DVSQN4S available to sell for a great price. If you're interested, shoot me an email: sendittoevan (at) gmail (dot) com http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/25550-fs-hawk-woods-dvsqn4s-battery-distro-system/ cheers, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam White Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) @hobbiesodd The built-in hirose lead on the the DVSQN4S (and DVSQN2S) outputs 7.2V, unswitched? While the switched outputs are 12V? Thanks Adam Edited November 5, 2015 by SonnyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 No, on the DVSQN4S you'll get 14,8 or whatever is the combined voltage of both batteries. Of course, that drops over the course of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam White Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 No, on the DVSQN4S you'll get 14,8 or whatever is the combined voltage of both batteries. Of course, that drops over the course of time Good point. For the DVSQN4S it's ~14V. For the single battery version DVSQN2S it will be ~7V. Either way its not a regulated output? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbiesodd Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 @hobbiesodd The built-in hirose lead on the the DVSQN4S (and DVSQN2S) outputs 7.2V, unswitched? While the switched outputs are 12V? Thanks Adam what Constantin said.... BUT, the flying lead on the one I am selling is regulated @ 12V. Cheers, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Good point. For the DVSQN4S it's ~14V. For the single battery version DVSQN2S it will be ~7V. Either way its not a regulated output? yes. Except for the one sells. A special edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam White Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 From the Hawkwoods sales rep: DV-SQN2S – All is regulated as we have to , there is no other way. DV-SQN4S – Only chassis mount outputs are regulated, Flying lead will be battery nominal voltage so 16/16.8v. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckcareder Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I am currently using 3rd party sony np-f970 and sound guys solutions dual sled to power up my 633 and 2 sets of lectro 211. batteries are 6600mah. I am able to power up this setup for around 7hours continuously without switching off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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