Mirror Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdxaxJNs15s#t=236 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al mcguire Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 This really needs to be in the Society, Politics and the Planet Section http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/forum/56-groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 No surprise that mirror posted this..... Yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 This really needs to be in the Society, Politics and the Planet Section http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/forum/56-groups/ Sounds like the pot is calling the kettle black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 No surprise that mirror posted this..... Yawn Yes, people that disagree with you are predicable and boring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Good script..delivery a bit stiff. Seems to be ADR'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Reilly Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 The mic is very conspicuous here..includes plosive..but somehow justifiable: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 No tired, unjustifiable arguments are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Try telling the traditional land owners in the Pacific that are having to leave their island homes that rising seas levels are not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_bollard Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 If any one is interested: http://tinyurl.com/qfpag95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 So these are the only two actors they could find who would defend the "climate change is lie" stance? Of course, the arguments are very compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Try telling the traditional land owners in the Pacific that are having to leave their island homes that rising seas levels are not happening Yes, the world has never changed until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I had to stop watching when I realized they don't even know what "global warming" is, and all their scientific knowledge comes from somebody like Rush Limbaugh. Global Warming models have ALWAYS called for colder Winters. Global Warming means the AVERAGE annual temperature consistently rises and that's enough to melt what had previously been permanently frozen. That doesn't mean Winter in Boston will feel like San Diego, quite the opposite. It will be colder, but the Summer will be hotter and the average for the year will be higher than a decade earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 http://www.wunderground.com/news/global-warming-winters-20130328 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 For reasons I can't understand, there are many people who seem to think that climate and weather must be consistent over time or disaster of epic proportions will take place. Neither climate nor weather have been, or ever will be truly consistent. We live on a big blue ball in space that is a living organism itself. It will do what it will do and we are along for the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 "We live on a big blue ball in space that is a living organism itself. It will do what it will do and we are along for the ride." And we'll do what we do and we may be responsible for ending that ride for not only for us but for much of the rest of the life forms that the "big blue ball in space" has been supporting. To think that "It will do what it will do" and we are just passive "riders" completely ignores the unprecedented impact on the planet that "we" (human beings) have had in our relatively short time on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I didn't want to imply that we shouldn't take care of the planet. We should do everything we can to be good stewards of where we live. I have really enjoyed reading about the solar energy opportunities that members of this group have adapted, and I hope this is a wave of the future. Even if we do take meticulous care, and all of the other countries get on board, there will continue to be inconsistencies in weather and climate over time. There are members of the public that listen to extremists (from both sides) and they lose this part of the big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 http://cowspiracy.com/ made me realise, cars, electricity, turning lights off, riding a bike to work, relatively speaking, does hardly anything. Compared with the meat agriculture. worth a watch, amazing documentary. there was one point in that doco that made me really think long and hard, it said that 1 big mac takes 650 gallons of water to produce. yet the california water comittee said best thing we can do to save water is have shorter showers, get better shower heads. When he asked them what about the meat agriculture ( water consumption ) they said... we can't comment on that, hehehehe amazing documentary as I said, mind blowing for me personally. and i'm not a vegan!, check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Don't worry too much about water consumption. Water doesn't get consumed as such, it's a cyclic medium, so to speak. What does get more complicated though, is cleaning it so that it becomes safe for drinking again. What is a problem though, is that water does move around the planet (in clouds) and thanks to global warming (whatever causes it) it rains down in different places than it did before. This may mean that certain dry areas get drier, others get flooded and thus have problems with floods and so on. But the total amount of water on earth more or less stays the same. In fact, again thanks to global warming, more water becomes available due to the melting snow caps. Saving water is useful though, to keep the water local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 This was doing the rounds the other week: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Cosmos had a great episode on why climate change happens and how it has affected us. It's the reason we walk upright for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Don't worry too much about water consumption. Water doesn't get consumed as such, it's a cyclic medium, so to speak. What does get more complicated though, is cleaning it so that it becomes safe for drinking again. What is a problem though, is that water does move around the planet (in clouds) and thanks to global warming (whatever causes it) it rains down in different places than it did before. This may mean that certain dry areas get drier, others get flooded and thus have problems with floods and so on. But the total amount of water on earth more or less stays the same. In fact, again thanks to global warming, more water becomes available due to the melting snow caps. Saving water is useful though, to keep the water local yes true, but tell that to areas affected by drought and water restrictions. water consumption is out of control in the animal agriculture. interesting times, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted October 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-m09lKtYT4#t=1682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrecorder Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Junk science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Trew Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Heretics. All heretics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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