Zaxcom Rerecord and Wireless Audition

[vale]

I use a Fusion 12 recorder since 2011 and until the last year never had a issue with these two functions with my wireless system (I have 2 QRX100 and 4 LANC txs).

Now, I don't know exactly when (it was with one of the not very last firmware update in the QRX/TRX side I guess), but they're not working anymore.

 

I've already wrote Howy at Zaxcom but he has his Fusion not working at the moment for what I understood.

 

I tried everything and double-checked every setting and all seems to be ok.

What happens is that when I hit the "ReRecord" or "Wireless audition" buttons, my transmitters go in STOP and not in PLAY, so I'm not able to make what I want from the Fusion and have to import the files from the sd via Zaxconvert.

 

If someone here has the same setup and experienced something similar, please tell me how was able to solve the issue.

 

Any input is appreciated,

 

thanks,

 

vale.

[efksound]

Hi Vale

Have you tried turning the prerecord mode off on the Fusion?

[vale]

Hi.

I will try it again.

But I have to say I have my txs always recording, so preroll shouldn't be a factor.

Are you running my same setup without notice this problem?

 

Thanks anyway,

vale.

[Jeff Wexler]

I think possibly it is the timecode address that is the problem --- maybe it is somehow set for a tc point that causes it to start and then stop immediately. If the transmitters are always recording, you should be able to go into the CUE screen (on the Fusion), toggle to Zaxnet and then choose the take that you want to audition or re-record. Maybe the CUE function is not entering the correct timecode start.

[efksound]

I experienced something similar, but I have my TRXLA on remote roll, everytime I wanted to use wireless audition it didn't work because the fusion with prerecord on was never sending the correct start tc to the TRXs and they stayed in stop mode. The only way was either to correct the tc values manually ( adding 5 or 6 secs ) if I had for example set the prerec to 5s or turning it off completely. This way the TRX would enter in play mode with no problem

[vale]

Hi Jeff and thanks for the reply.

 

Here's a link video I took to show the problem (I posted it into the Zaxcom users forum too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Ud21X_baI

 

sorry, I'm not being able to put the video on this page straightly.. 

 

Anyway, all the other commands (frequency and gain changes) between recorder and wireless are flawless (so, I suppose the ifb chain is ok). I tried to enter myself the timecode in the Cue page, but it doesn't work even doing this way...

 

efksound: I have them always in REC, so the the tc values should be always ok even with my 2sec preroll. Anyway, this was the same configuration since I've bought the Fusion and untill the last year everything worked ok. It was all messed up with some firmware upgrade I'm not being able to understand which one...

[efksound]

Vale

So When you are in the cue screen and have the TC? 16:21:35:19 and you enter manually the tc values using the numeric keypad nothing happens ?

I'm on 7.56

[vale]

In an other attempt, before the one posted, I tried to enter the tc value giving 2-3 sec more considering my preroll setting, but the txs always did remain in STOP.

Anyway, I can't understand why they won't go in PLAY even if i don't enter manually the tc.

 

 

Vale
When you are in the cue screen and have the TC? 16:21:35:19 it is where you can enter manually the tc values using the numeric keypad.

I'm on 7.56

[efksound]

I suppose the users bits,date etc....are correct. If you press play on your IFB device do the Trx go into play .?

[vale]

Yes, they do.

And everything else via QIFB works perfectly...

Thanks for all your inputs btw...

[fieldmixer]

I love these play by play problem solving threads. The best!

[vale]

Actually, I still didn't solve my original problem...

[John Blankenship]

I think you may be right that something in firmware is broken. I've tried re-recording a couple of times to Deva recently with similar results to yours.

[howy]

I tried it on my fusion with an IFB100 and it worked.  At first it did not because my IFB100 was set to AUTO-LOAD (RECORD-RUN) timecode mode.  Once I set it to Auto JAM it started working.

-howy

[John Blankenship]

My IFB100 is set properly on Auto JAM.

[vale]

I checked with my QRX IFB Option and it is set properly to Auto JAM too.

Sometimes it happens that the first time I try to make a Wireless Audition it works, but then it doesn't work anymore if I try it for a second time or more, even on the same take.

[John Blankenship]

Something is definitely not working the way it should.

[efksound]

Have you tried reinstalling and/or upgrading firmware on all your devices ?

[John Blankenship]

Firmware:

 

Deva:  7.56

Transmitters & IFB100:  8.95

 

Eric, is yours working okay?  What firmware are you running?

[vale]

I have Fusion version 7.56 and QRX IFB Option version 1.58.

Same questions that John did, are you able to make that functions work?

 

 

Have you tried reinstalling and/or upgrading firmware on all your devices ?

[efksound]

Hi

just got all the Zax gear on the living room table and have been doing some tests to be 100% sure everything works

Got some problems at the begining probably due that I had my Fusion on 23.98 and the rest was set at 25.

So after setting everything as it should and power cycling everything, Wireless audition & Re-record seem to work with my setup.

 

Fusion 10 : 7.56 (with prerecord to off, transport slaved to ON)

IFB100 : 8.89 (in AutoJam)

QRX100 : 3.30

TRXLA : 8.80

 

the only issue I'm having now is that I used the same AES cable for the QRX100 that I use on my Nomad on the Fusion (I think the pinouts are the same) but I was getting clicks and small signal muting, the same when you have something that is not properly synced or clocked.

Is there something I need to do on the Fusion ? On the Nomad it's just plug & play...,
Or is just that the AES cable for the Nomad is not compatible with the Fusion ?

 

Thanks

[patrickveigel]

Hi,

for wireless audition and re-record to work I have to put "Transport Slaved" in the Fusion's Zaxnet Menu to "on". For me it's been like that for a couple of years now, already, before that, I  think, it would also work when the transmitters would record continuously.

Other people claimed it doesn't make a difference for them whether it's put to slaved or not....

Patrick

[patrickveigel]

 

Or is just that the AES cable for the Nomad is not compatible with the Fusion ?

 

Thanks

 

The AES pin layout of the DB-9  on the Nomad and the Fusion are different. 

[efksound]

 

 

Doh ! Thanks Patrick , will have a better look... (wondering why Zaxcom couldn't keep the same layout)

 

EDIT : I see now that the grounds are different on the Fusion all the grounds go to Pin 8 on the DB15 while on the Nomad the grounds all have different pins on the DB15... grrrr

[Matthias Richter]

doing remix today for a 10 page (6 actors on TRX + TRX742) steadicam all in one shot scene. worked as always but the files were named different (normally it´s name is based on the original take) and the TC-offset wasn´t calculated a couple of times. Don´t know why ...