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Denecke Date Roll Over


Joshua Anderson

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Curiosity is getting the best of me and my team...so I'm not waiting for a good time to contact Denecke directly. While on set, we're wondering if anyone has an answer to this:

When my time code (from the GR-2) rolls over midnight, the date increments, but not in the normal way. The month is added to, while the day remains the same. I've looked through the menu to see if I'm missing a setting and to make sure the GR-2 is not in European date mode.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this sort of rollover on other Denecke devices, so I'm guessing it's intentional. My theory is that it's to alert you to the fact you're rolling over midnight. Anyone have a real reason?

Josh

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I recall the slates going up by month at midnight too. The mm/dd order on the jamming source machine being irrelevant. The slates exist on the "international" setting dd/mm, so the first number increases regardless.

But if the GR-2 has mm/dd setting, as you wrote, it should go up on dd.

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It does have American and International variations. I don't remember - and not on set right now - if both number columns will go past 12. If I switch to international on the GR-2 and treat the months like days, it may not advance enough. I have a feeling you're right about the TS-Cs rolling over independently. I think that's how mine behave whether I jam it from the GR-2 or a 788.

I think I have to send a slate in soon, so I'll try to remember to ask Denecke. It came up yesterday because I left the GR-2 on overnight and when we jammed the slates, we were already into November.

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A bit broader, not just for Denecke slates: A few years ago on a shoot, a clever AC (yes, these exist!) had us set every clock and time-of-day TC back 12 hours when shooting started after noon. That way file creation dates, daily folders, and TC/UB stay on one "shooting day", and you never have 00:xx:xx.xx TC shocking the assistant editor.

Since then, I usually work that way, and never got complaints.

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A bit broader, not just for Denecke slates: A few years ago on a shoot, a clever AC (yes, these exist!) had us set every clock and time-of-day TC back 12 hours when shooting started after noon. That way file creation dates, daily folders, and TC/UB stay on one "shooting day", and you never have 00:xx:xx.xx TC shocking the assistant editor.

 

Very wise move. This is very helpful for post.

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and as far as I knew, this was considered SOP?

 

 

Not so much SOP for me. I do TOD and that always seems to be the assumption during Post Production Workflow Conference Calls in Prep. 

 

However, on the show I'm on now, it looked like we were an email away from having to address this. We got an email from Post that there were problems when we would start rolling a take before midnight and cross the line during the take. There was a suggestion to switch to basing zero off of the call time so we wouldn't cross that line. Apparently, it was an issue with the transferring - the time code on the video files would stop at midnight, while my time code would continue. But, because of the rare occurrence, we let the process be. 

 

Josh

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If using free run, set your user bits to day/month/year.

If you are using Denecke slates and sync boxes the day will automatically roll over at midnight.. Sometimes the post houses don't want this to happen, so I'll set the timecode to an AM time if shooting later in the day. Some shows I'll just start timecode at hour 1, time of day be damned.

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If using free run, set your user bits to day/month/year.

That's what I ended up doing. I guess my initial confusion was caused by the fact that Denecke is based in CA and I think of that date structure as more international over American. I kept (over)thinking it and wondering if there was some practical reason for the month to jump after midnight (like a reminder to re-jam).

We're around stories all day, I thought there was more of one here.

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