Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hey all, Here is a link to a new Cyclone test that I put together shooting out the Cyclone and the WS4. Be sure to check out the response from Rycote under the video! Huge thanks to Gotham Sound! Hope you enjoy! https://www.gothamsound.com/news/rycote-vs-rycote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Did u get to try swinging it fast. That cyclone makes a whirring sound similar to an open window during a "cyclone". As demonstrated by the cinela vs cyclone test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 But loved ur review. I just hope rycote fix the whirring as I think it makes this mount susceptable to strange noises under high wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Rycote: get a windjammer for the Cyclone: THIS is not going to work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thank you Prahlad! Rycote does have a windjammer for the Cyclone! This was part of their response to the video. Gotham Sound already has a few on order and I will get one Rycote didn't really advertise the windjammer I suppose because they were really trying to push the no fur concept as much as possible. Prior to making this video and hearing from Rycote even Gotham did not know about it. I did not test fast swinging specifically though I did do some short fast swings and yes, I did hear it. I had to really try to make it happen though and felt that in real use it's probably not a huge deal. In my honest opinion, the Cinela video stresses this further than it would be in real life. "Pixel peeping" if you will excuse the video term. Not that it's not a problem. And let me be clear, it says a lot for Cinela that the Piano does not have that problem at all! But I just think it's slightly overhyped. I expect that the Cyclone windjammer will make a huge difference in those extreme situations. I would love to make a follow up once I do receive the windjammer. EDIT: just want to clarify, I don't think the Piano is overhyped, I think the cyclone wind noise is slightly overhyped from the swinging test. Re-read my post and thought that might be confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I got a wise advice from a veteran in this sport: "Buy what works". Rycote WS4 and Cinela Piano works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Once I have the cyclone windjammer, I expect the Cyclone to work better than the WS4. Already it is better in all but the strongest winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Matthew, I can't remember from your review, but how does the weight of the two systems compare? Do you know the weight of the Cyclone fur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Um... Handling noise on WS4 might be improved if the windjammer tie wasn't smacking against the pistol grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Um... Handling noise on WS4 might be improved if the windjammer tie wasn't smacking against the pistol grip. either tie it up with itself, or tuck it under the fur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Um... Handling noise on WS4 might be improved if the windjammer tie wasn't smacking against the pistol grip. I agree that I should have tucked up the tie. That was an oversight. But the sound that you hear is not the tie. It is hard to see on the CMIT shot but the tie is not actually hitting the pistol grip. The shot with the CMIT was on a different camera with no zoom. The Blackmagic camera that we were using did not cooperate with the cold weather so we had to finish a couple shots on a Samsung Galaxy and hence the different angle. If you check the handling noise test with the Sennheiser inside you can see more clearly that the tie does not touch the pole or the grip. Matthew, I can't remember from your review, but how does the weight of the two systems compare? Do you know the weight of the Cyclone fur? I do not know the weight of the Cyclone with fur unfortunately so I can't really comment on it specifically. Weight between the two was roughly equal as it was though with the fur I expect the Cyclone to be a bit heavier. At that point though I expect the performance to be significantly better than the WS4 so that will be the trade off I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bralleput Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Is there a fur for the Cyclone?Or was this a Rycote arrogance not to provide/make one?If non is available yet, Rycote is in trouble with this product if they want to compete with Cinela..Just had some 'stormy days' (8-9 beaufort) with the piano : no problems at all!(Ok my BoomOp had trouble keeping the mike on spot because of the wind,but the mike (KMR81) sounded really nice! (to my surprise!!) I have Pelicans full of Rycoteproducts,but I'm never going back..! Moneywise..I don't cry all the way to the bank:it's worth the extra money!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sonnenfeld Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 This test was without a fur. Rycote does have a fur however it was not known that they did. Once I have the fur I will retest with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ray Harris Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 For the price they should include the windjammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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