Jump to content

Sharknado 3 Strike


Alistair Duff

Recommended Posts

The crew of Sharknado 3 is currently in the process of organizing the production with the support of Local 695 and other IA representatives. Please show your support by joining us tomorrow morning either at Blue Cloud movie ranch 20000 Blue Cloud Road, Santa Clarita, CA 91390 or at the production company offices at 72 E. Palm Avenue Burbank California 91502 

 

Alistair

post-6678-0-41846600-1425438514_thumb.jp

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

SHARKNADO STRIKE CONTINUES TODAY

SATURDAY MARCH 7

 

Starting at 9:15 am and continuing all day if we have to

13151 Sherman Way, North Hollywood 91605

Park on the street or at the nearby K-Mart. Coffee and bad breakfast foods await.

 

This crew is standing STRONG and the rest of us are standing right behind 'em!

COME JOIN US TODAY. 

 

post-735-0-40390800-1425740609_thumb.jpg

post-735-0-40390800-1425740609_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Only 1 additional one so far.  The Producers are going to have to get real and listen to their crew's request to negotiate if they want to get the 3rd one done.

 

BUT...didn't the crew know the deal when they signed their own deal memo?  Negotiation time was then...unless the producers introduced NEW conditions into the deal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mirror, I know you probably know this but here is why I don't think question pertains.  Many times a crew will begin a non-union job and then, for a variety of reasons, make the determination their best interests are being ignored.  In some extreme cases, crew members come to the conclusion that they would like to be represented by a union.  They take a vote as per the rules outlined in the LMRDA and if the outcome of that vote is positive, the union is appointed as their representative.  Usually when this happens, the producer negotiates with the crew's chosen representative (the union) and a contract is agreed upon.  Occasionally, however, the producer refuses to even discuss.  This is what usually leads to a strike.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have worked on 3 movies that started non-union and then over 95% of the crew voted for union. 2 of the 3 movies had less then a 2 hour work stoppage. The union approached them and they immediately decided to start negotiating so we went back to work and had a contract with retro active pay and benefits within 48 hours. The 3rd movie ignored the union after 2 days so we walked off the job for 1 day and we had a contract by 8:00am the next day. No one wants to strike but sometimes it must happen. It doesn't sound like Sharknado 3 wants to make a deal though so I hope the strike prevents them from getting this movie made. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

BUT...didn't the crew know the deal when they signed their own deal memo?  Negotiation time was then...unless the producers introduced NEW conditions into the deal.

Without a union contract, there's nothing to prevent NEW conditions unilaterally. Or continuously. Or arbitrarily.

Best regards,

Jim

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Without a union contract, there's nothing to prevent NEW conditions unilaterally. Or continuously. Or arbitrarily.

Best regards,

Jim

What Jim says. Without a contract, a "deal memo" is just a piece of paper that exists for the brief moment you sign it and seldom even contains any provisions regarding working conditions. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

SHARKNADO PICKET LINE INFO FOR SUNDAY MARCH 8

 

Starting at 10:30 am and continuing all day

(calltime may change so check back Sunday morning)

13151 Sherman Way, North Hollywood 91605

 

Since last Monday, 4 sound crews have shown up for work and 4 sound crews have joined the picket line.  We belong to an awesome community of sound professionals and it's incredible to share the experience on the picket line with such an amazing group of people.  Local 695 members completely dominated today as they have been doing all week, easily outnumbering Locals 4 times our size.  JOIN US TOMORROW (Sunday March 8.  Bring your sunscreen, bring your Harley (or any other suitable noisemaker) and support your sound brothers and sisters!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Walked that picket line for about 10 hours on both Satuday, and Sunday.  I kept overhearing local 600 people say, "I can't believe how many 695 people showed up!"  

 

Today we came up with the idea to sing "happy birthday" over and over again.. We figured that getting the rights to that, might cost them dear.  Even got to 99 bottles of beer on the wall, but we didn't think that was, copyrighted..

 

They re-wrote an entire scene in, got every extra, security gaurd, and PA to hold signs up, and staged a "Protest the Sharks" fake protest.. with us in the background.

 

Personally I doubt they got much sound anyway, the PA they gave the boom/zoon to had the boom no where near the actors.  ADR the whole movie.. what the heck.

 

-Richard

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have worked on 3 movies that started non-union and then over 95% of the crew voted for union. 2 of the 3 movies had less then a 2 hour work stoppage. The union approached them and they immediately decided to start negotiating so we went back to work and had a contract with retro active pay and benefits within 48 hours. The 3rd movie ignored the union after 2 days so we walked off the job for 1 day and we had a contract by 8:00am the next day. No one wants to strike but sometimes it must happen. It doesn't sound like Sharknado 3 wants to make a deal though so I hope the strike prevents them from getting this movie made. 

 

Wow, that is crazy.  Is this a "right to work" state thing?  I can't quite figure out how that would work after you became IA after the first project that you then work on a non union movie that a second time that "turns union"and then again a third time?  What would the IA say each time? What is the point of having an IA contract at that point when the crew members are already IA?  Do you just end up working under fake names ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Quite a long time ago rulings were passed by the I.A. that made it okay for a union member to work a non-union job. You cannot be penalized for this. This was not always the case but one of the provisions in one of the lawsuits (actually this began with one of the lawsuits I was involved in that got me into the union) made it illegal for the union to penalize the members for taking non-union employment. The I.A. certainly does not encourage this but lots and lots of non-union productions had many union members working and the I.A. did encourage those members to try and organize.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry, I don't have any official reference to this. It is possible that even the court ruling was not in fact a binding court ruling but rather an agreement of some other sort amongst the parties involved. I do know that in practice, no one has been penalized for accepting employment from an employer not covered by the collective bargaining agreements.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"Growing numbers of members only serves to perpetuate the existence of the union, it doesn't serve the membership. "

 

Very well put, Robert.  

 

FWIW, here in Atlanta we have been officially advised to take non-union work.  Then we report in, and decisions are made to go after / flip the job or not.  If flipped, the labor rates can get fixed and benefits restored.  Equipment rates CANNOT....  

Thus, if you elect to take an approach to a non-union film, get your package rate up to your tolerance level from the start. 

 

MF

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...