creeoss Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 hey guys, I'm doing sound on a movie right now and there are a lot of scenes with no dialogue, shot with a steady cam (noisy running type of shots), tight budget, just wondering if yall been through this and have any suggestions. I have already talked to production and informed them the sound on those shots is unusable. most of the shots are like walking through hallways and running through snow type stuff. thanks in advance, having a moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I did something like this years ago. I experimented with walking along somewhere near the actor, as they were doing the camera shot. I was, in fact, walking in step with the actor, and recording my own footsteps - it was like 'live' ADR/Foley. It worked surprisingly well ;-) Kindest, sb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanpeds Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 is there no budget for post sound? they can use the rough production audio to help the foley walker along if the foley walker wants to listen to it. It doesn't take a good foley walker long to add footsteps to a scene. Ive seen them do it in one take... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I did the same thing decades ago Simon. We did it as a joke but it did work well. Ryan is right. Que Track is better than no track. CrewC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creeoss Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 hey guys, thank you so much for your posts, they do have money for post, I was toying with the idea of doing some stuff wild if they have some time but was wondering also if it would even match action that well and therefor be better left for foley??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whit Norris Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Simon and Crew, Also did the same thing years ago recording either mine or the boom ops footsteps. We called it "Present Post Production". Had fun with it. Whit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 You can also ask for a "sound-only" take without camera, and then record just the actor running or walking. Call it "live foley." If the AD will give you the time, it could be useful in post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 It's great fun when it works. A boom op I worked with when I was a 3rd was very good at it. One time a director was actually on headphones for the shot, and afterwards exclaimed, "That was amazing! How are you recording his footsteps?" We showed him. Lots of laughter. It is someone's job to do this in post, and as long as that person is in place, I don't think it's wise to waste valuable production time, or risk injury to people, gear, and the shot itself to get something that should and will be replaced. But only you can determine the value of the foley for each situation, weighing the pros and cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginufuk Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 +1 for what Mr. Sharman says (Sorry don't know your name while have been reading pretty much all your posts for some time...) I remind myself something Jeff also reminds here frequently. It's sound for visual and always good idea to understand the priority and let the production do their steady cam shots. What steady cam adds to what director wants to tell? vs the importance of capturing the organic sound of the steps in your case. Que track? pretty much "a must" I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Childers Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Sound only takes are good for this "moc" without camera:). I've also ran a lav down the pant so it sit almost where the shoes is...great guide for laying in footsteps in post later Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkautzsch Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 +1 to the "live Foley" approach. If you can do the footsteps in sync with the actors, do so. A wild track won't be of much use since post will have to align each footstep anyway, and then it's easier to Foley it. As long as it's not lipsync dialog, don't worry about getting the real sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonG Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Ive put a mic on the camera and it worked out surprisingly well. Worst case scenario you've got a guide track for Foley. I do love the live Foley approach. Gotta try it some time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolo72 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I did what bash has done on Friday on a comedy pilot. I also did a wild track with the actor walking in a circle because the pace was very steady and the actor was a martial artist and could match his own pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creeoss Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 thank you! I tried the live foley and it worked pretty well, we have a lot of walking in the snow shots so I'll be honing in on my foley walking skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Weaver Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Simon and Crew, Also did the same thing years ago recording either mine or the boom ops footsteps. We called it "Present Post Production". Had fun with it. Whit I remember that. It may have been me walking in place.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Cameron Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Where's that other thread?..the one where it was discussed in greater detail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinout Weebers Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Allot of good tip's here, backing the lot! People always want to join the steadicam crew for some reason, and many times I have to talk them out of if because it makes my tracks less useful. That's step one for me. I always try to get a wild take without dialogue. Walking in pace with actors with a long boom eliminates my own footsteps. "Let the actors walk, or run, around you in in a big circle so you don't have to walk yourself. " Different tempi and or ways of walking will also help in post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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