Ze Frias Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Curious about the smart batteries (Audioroot, Inspired Energy)? Read up: http://mixeli.us/technology/smart-battery-shopping-guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 +1000 to Jose! Clear and complete write up, wonderfully presented on your site --- a truly valuable resource. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Yes, great in depth overview. Thinking these will be great batteries to start using with or without the smart BDS. 30% more Wh in a smaller form factor than IDX NP1s.. Edited November 6, 2015 by Derek H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Richter Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 +++1 very good information! Btw. what do you guys do when your gear needs to fly to a film-location with your big batteries (more then 100Wh)? To feed my cart with enough power for a shooting day I have a 90AH (around 1000Wh) battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Great write up Jose. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidm Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Btw. what do you guys do when your gear needs to fly to a film-location with your big batteries (more then 100Wh)? To feed my cart with enough power for a shooting day I have a 90AH (around 1000Wh) battery. I have been using 8 x Inspired Energy batteries SMBus Li-Ion batteries with a pair of Ocean Server mains float chargers for 760Wh of power since 2008 as my cart power system. Disconnect and remove the batteries and they are legal to fly in your hand luggage as would be the case for any legal camera battery (V-Lok, NP1). http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/1703-cart-battery-power/#comment-11702 http://www.ocean-server.com/products.html# Edited November 6, 2015 by davidm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Dolinger Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Great work Jose, very convincing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shastapete Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Anyone using one of the Audioroot power distros have a solution for mains power? Obviously a continuous supply won't give any meaningful telemetry but will it "break" anything if feeding connected to the power inputs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Good one Jose. I am a little hurt you did not reference me in the article!!! I am kidding. (: Now to the serious: All the batteries that you reference can trip when connected directly to a nomad or a maxx . It does not happen all the time but it does happen. Especially the 89Wh audioroot and inspire energy. If going through the smart distro there is no problem. Other distros can be a problem. Edited November 7, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Also you missed inspire energy holster cups for 8cell and 4cell. Both can be ordered as chargers. Edited November 7, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Also you missed inspire energy holster cups for 8cell and 4cell. Both can be ordered as chargers. Hey Rado, I didn't miss them: And don't worry, you'll be referenced in my next post, it's about sound bags ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Ha I must have skipped it... What the hell do I know about bags? Edited November 8, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 What the hell do I know about bags? Just enough to inspire a revolution ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 great great great and comprehensive! thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason A Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Good one Jose. I am a little hurt you did not reference me in the article!!! I am kidding. (: Now to the serious: All the batteries that you reference can trip when connected directly to a nomad or a maxx . It does not happen all the time but it does happen. Especially the 89Wh audioroot and inspire energy. If going through the smart distro there is no problem. Other distros can be a problem. Rado- Fortunately haven't run into the tripping issue yet. Been using the IE 89Wh with a Remotes Audio BDS for a while now. What is the potential issue? Does the battery fail, or will the Nomad/Maxx fail for some reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I actually haven't had that issue either. I can power both my Nomad and Maxx directly off of my Inspired Energy batteries without anything tripping, but I do remember talking this over with you Rado, and if I remember correctly you mentioned that this could be fixed by removing a capacitor in the recorder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Rado- Fortunately haven't run into the tripping issue yet. Been using the IE 89Wh with a Remotes Audio BDS for a while now. What is the potential issue? Does the battery fail, or will the Nomad/Maxx fail for some reason? The Nomad trips the battery. it usually happened when the nomad was in on position. the battery takes 56 seconds after a trip. I actually haven't had that issue either. I can power both my Nomad and Maxx directly off of my Inspired Energy batteries without anything tripping, but I do remember talking this over with you Rado, and if I remember correctly you mentioned that this could be fixed by removing a capacitor in the recorder? Correct. It is an power noise filtering. Jose, have your nomad on and take out and plug in your 89wH a few times. Edited November 13, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 One really nice feature that I appreciate daily with IDX (and most other brand) NP batteries is the press-button LED 'status check' feature. Even though it's not accurate and gives no time remaining it's super useful to see if the battery is fresh or not when going through batteries on the shelf of in the case. Do the inspired energy batteries have this feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) they have LED battery gauge bat meter like antonbauer. Don't have to press anything. Edited November 14, 2015 by RadoStefanov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 they have LED battery gauge bat meter like antonbauer. Don't have to press anything. it also has 5 bars instead of 3, so it's far more granular and easier to gauge the remaining battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbiesodd Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 The Nomad trips the battery. it usually happened when the nomad was in on position. the battery takes 56 seconds after a trip. Correct. It is an power noise filtering. Jose, have your nomad on and take out and plug in your 89wH a few times. I get this issue often on my Nomad when I try and hot-swap an IE battery using the Audio Root MKII. Cheers, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Good to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I get this issue often on my Nomad when I try and hot-swap an IE battery using the Audio Root MKII. Cheers, Evan Evan, I know the part that has to be removed but don't want to openly talk about Zaxcom hardware. Call Glenn and ask him. He knows. BTW the issue is not specific to IE batteries. It happens with the AR as well. I was thinking about asking IE to rewrite a new firmware but I guess it would not be cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Why would this be not cheap rado - if it is just firmware then I would think it could be done in moments. Am I guessing that it would be some sort of soft start perhaps?, or maybe a slower trip? Kindest, sb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbiesodd Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Evan, I know the part that has to be removed but don't want to openly talk about Zaxcom hardware. Call Glenn and ask him. He knows. Thanks, Rado - that's great information. I'll definitely call Zaxcom when I get some free time. Cheers, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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