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-35 dB ATTENUATION CABLE  

This project came directly from Jay Rose’s book Producing Great Sound for Film and Video, 3rd edition. On pages 179 to 181 Jay explains what resistors to use and diagrams three different circuits. I chose to make the “balanced output to balanced input” as a cable instead of building it into a XLRm to XLRf barrel. This attenuating circuit uses (4) – 301 Ohms  1/4 watt 1% film resistor  and (1) – 15 Ohm 1/4 watt 1% film resistor. The challenge for me was figuring out how to get all 5 resistors soldered in the correct circuit design and still fit into a xlr connector. I have included 5 photographs that I made as I progressed, they uploaded out of order, tried to put them in order, no luck, I hope they are understandable.

Thank you Jay for all your books.

1. Resistor "web"

2. Finished (side view)

3. Finished (end view)

4. Connecting to pin 2 and pin 3

5. 15 Ohm Resistor has the green band

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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the photographs uploaded out of order, made new file names. Hope this will help.
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Great!  Thanks for the write-up and pics.  Having tried to cram just one resister into an XLR was a challenge for me so my hats off to you for shoehorning 5 into an impossibly small space. 

Oh, and how did you get the shrink wrap on after you made the resistor web?

Some of my great soldering challenges is to not shrink the wrap from the soldering iron heat while soldering before the wrap is in place.  You might have to read that last sentence a few times to unwrap it's meaning. :)

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I've had success by building out in the open and then after testing to be sure the pad is working as intended potting the whole mess thing with silicone. Hard to repair, but so's any pad.

Best regards,

Jim

I was just thinking about that the other day and was wondering what the down side would be (besides repairs).

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I was just thinking about that the other day and was wondering what the down side would be (besides repairs).

Biggest downside is the silicone itself. Gloves are required and it can be hard to clean up. Other than that, it's nonconductive, goes where you put it and stays there. Stays on my clothes and in my beard no matter how careful I am.

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Wow! Thanks, all, for the ideas and feedback. I'll try to work some of it into the next edition.

(When I've built H pads, I've usually put all the resistors on a tiny piece of perf board... then wrapped the whole assembly in tape -- sometimes in the middle of the short cable; sometimes including the XLR pin insert in the taped blob). 

Yours looks a lot nicer and more professional from the outside.

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Fun topic, pads.

Mark, you may want to consider using 1/8W resistors instead of 1/4W because they will perform the same and take up almost half the space. Also, save some unnecessary expense and consider 5% or even 10% carbon resistors, especially for the shunt resistor (the 15-Ohm, in this case). The argument could be made that 1% resistors could improve common mode rejection, but I doubt anyone would ever experience an issue with this, especially considering the line level source and the fact that the pad should be installed at the load end.

GT

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Glen,

Thanks you for your thoughts on the resistors. I did try to purchase 1/8-watt resistors, but my local supplier did not have them in stock. This was my first attempt in making a pad and so I did not mind spending a little more money for the 1% resistors.

I also want to thank you for the great information you have posted on JW Sound over the years; I have gleaned a lot from them.

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