mastering Online mastering studios full list - what do you think?

[Marek1000]

A few months ago we've started this service - audio mastering online studios list, where everybody can find mastering studio for him by different technical parameters, by price, by country and so on: https://audio-mastering-online.com
If you know any studio that makes online mastering and still is not in our catalog - write it here, please!
If you have any suggestion how to improve our service - write it here, please! =)
Thank you.

[Jeff Wexler]

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The above post is essentially advertising but I will let it ride for the moment. I would not encourage people to "write it here, please". Go to the linked site if you want to participate or contribute to this online survey or assist in this online business.

[Philip Perkins]

Yeah, and the concept is a horseshit scam anyhow.

 

[Marek1000]

2 hours ago, Jeff Wexler said:

Note: JWSOUND comments on this

The above post is essentially advertising but I will let it ride for the moment. I would not encourage people to "write it here, please". Go to the linked site if you want to participate or contribute to this online survey or assist in this online business.

Thank you, Jeff!

2 hours ago, Philip Perkins said:

Yeah, and the concept is a horseshit scam anyhow.

 

Why do you think so? There are more than 200 studios that have updated their information in our website. Not all of 200 studios owners, but 85-90% of them said "thank you for the website" to us. Other 10-15% haven't said nothing. And 3 studio owners asked to remove their information from our catalog. Just 3. It seems that people mostly like it...

And I have one more thing to say. I'm russian musician, living in Spain. I have played with a lot of different bands, we've made a lot of records, and sometimes we wanted to do a mastering. We needed a catalog like this very much, but there was only frirends experience and google. Now you have all three of them. If you don't like it, you can still use first two, but what bad part do you see in website like this?

[Jeff Wexler]

"If you don't like it, you can still use first two, but what bad part do you see in website like this?"  It really doesn't matter whether somebody finds value in your website or not --- JWSOUND is not the place to be promoting it. No one here needs "mastering" and no one here cares whether your site provides help to anyone. I will leave your post up so if by some small chance there is someone interested, they can go to the link you posted. Done.

[Marek1000]

Just now, Jeff Wexler said:

"If you don't like it, you can still use first two, but what bad part do you see in website like this?"  It really doesn't matter whether somebody finds value in your website or not --- JWSOUND is not the place to be promoting it. No one here needs "mastering" and no one here cares whether your site provides help to anyone. I will leave your post up so if by some small chance there is someone interested, they can go to the link you posted. Done.

Yes, Jeff, thank you again.

[Jay Rose]

Online mastering seems to make as much sense as online re-recording: it's possible that someone who  

-      doesn't know the project, doesn't know the artistic goals, and doesn't know the artist or director, 

-      might do a technically competent job, but:

-      when it comes to the dozens/hundreds of judgement calls in a typical project, is unlikely to make the same decisions that the project's creator would.

Besides, there are so many "mastering in a box" plug-ins and rack processors these days that a musician could possibly get the same result by just taking their track to a music store and asking for a demo.

 

[Philip Perkins]

Real mastering takes place with the artist and engineer sitting in the same room listening to the same monitors.  Online "mastering" is a scam set up to fleece people who are either too lazy or too ignorant to understand what the process entails, find someone they can trust and actually show up for a session.  Do your mastering, and if you are good at it people will come to you.  In person.

[Marek1000]

5 hours ago, Philip Perkins said:

Real mastering takes place with the artist and engineer sitting in the same room listening to the same monitors.  Online "mastering" is a scam set up to fleece people who are either too lazy or too ignorant to understand what the process entails, find someone they can trust and actually show up for a session.  Do your mastering, and if you are good at it people will come to you.  In person.

Yes, but young bands from Russia (just for example) can't go to London or to New York to make mastering, sitting in the same room with a good engineer - just because they haven't got money for this.

But they can send their Single to Abbey Road (just for example) and what is most important - when they will get their song back it'll be absolutely different result than if they used the best russian sound studios and sound engineers.

All really famous russian bands not only master their tracks in Europe - they record their tracks in Europe also. But there are a lot of middle-level bands, that can't own the studio in Amsterdam or Berlin (just for example), but they can send their records there for mastering. I wouldn't say for sure, but I think that almost the same situation is in a lot of countries like Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus, Serbia and so on.

Just imagine that not all the world is your country. There're others. =)

[Philip Perkins]

What I imagine is that the chemistry between a good mastering engineer and their client is not transmittable digitally.  If you want to provide mastering for your Russian clients set up a mastering room and do it with them, the right way, in person.   Internet mastering shooting in the dark.  And lots of Americans have set up similar sites to yours--you are far from the first guy to make this kind of promise.  

[Jay Rose]

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But they can send their Single to Abbey Road (just for example) and what is most important - when they will get their song back it'll be absolutely different result than if they used the best russian sound studios and sound engineers.

 

No doubt. In fact, they could send it to two different Abbey Road engineers, or one at Abbey Road and one at Gateway, and each version would be different.

Not only that, but all three versions would be loud and punchy on the air. As would a version done by any competent mastering engineer in the musician's home town, and possibly one by any good 'mastering' software with a lucky choice of presets. 

The question is, which version would be right for the artistic vision?

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Next question: how do you choose an artistic collaborator -- or even judge a mastering engineer's chops -- based on a web directory of price, "technical parameters" (whatever they are), and country? 

[Marek1000]

On 25.01.2016 at 1:01 AM, Philip Perkins said:

What I imagine is that the chemistry between a good mastering engineer and their client is not transmittable digitally.  If you want to provide mastering for your Russian clients set up a mastering room and do it with them, the right way, in person.   Internet mastering shooting in the dark.  And lots of Americans have set up similar sites to yours--you are far from the first guy to make this kind of promise.  

I can't find any website like this. There are some lists, but short and without any options. Can you write one or two of them here? Or in PM.

[Marek1000]

On 25.01.2016 at 4:19 AM, Jay Rose said:

No doubt. In fact, they could send it to two different Abbey Road engineers, or one at Abbey Road and one at Gateway, and each version would be different.

Not only that, but all three versions would be loud and punchy on the air. As would a version done by any competent mastering engineer in the musician's home town, and possibly one by any good 'mastering' software with a lucky choice of presets. 

The question is, which version would be right for the artistic vision?

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Next question: how do you choose an artistic collaborator -- or even judge a mastering engineer's chops -- based on a web directory of price, "technical parameters" (whatever they are), and country? 

Yes, I absolutely agree with that. "Which version would be right for the artistic vision" is the question. I'll try to answer both your questions like I see it:

For example, in our catalog you can find all studios that can send you a free preview sample of your track, mastered by this studio. Trying them for free you can find that maybe one of them is yours and understand better, what do you want and what you don't want about your song/track. Or you can understand, that online mastering is horseshit scam for you. =)

You want to master you new "country" album. You choose only studios that do mastering in this style. You're scrolling the list and you see that some of them also do mastering of heavy-metal and electronic. They're not yours. You haven't got a lot of money, so you're looking some middle-price studio. You need a free preview, like i said before. And you see all of it in one list - that's the idea. Then, when you have chosen for example three studios, you already trying to find a common language with them, sending emails or talking in skype, receiving your free samples, and so on. And then, maybe, you get what you need. If not, ok, you can try anything else.