Patrick Tresch Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Hello, I'm looking for a camera mic for DSLR type of input (stereo minijack mic level) for an A7s2 or Weapon basic module. I wonder how the new Sennheiser MKE440 sounds. I'm looking for maximum voice clarity and background rejection. Did anybody test it at cinegear? What do you think about the sound quality on the sample showed in the review? Thanks for any input. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/audio/hands-review/field-sennheiser-mke-440-shotgun-microphone Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Those small plastic Senn shotguns are about as good as that kind of thing gets--I've done a fair amount of post with audio from them and they sound ok. You know the rules--quiet BG, get close, don't let the audio clip, keep the speaker in front of the mic, so you'll be good with one. They seem like the best compromise of sound vs/size+weight on a small cam, esp something like A7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Sennheiser MKE 400 is quite ok. You can order it with a fur extension which makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Sjostrom Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 What about Ambient Tinymike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Some camera buds found a really tiny plugin mic from Olympus, about an inch long that plugs directly into a mini jack (that has plugin power). ME52--they use it with some Red cams to grab slate claps etc. Works ok for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Olle Sjostrom said: What about Ambient Tinymike? I have one of those, along with an InVision mount, two windshields, etc....won it at a RAMPS/JWS NAB dinner raffle a couple years ago (thanks Ambient!). Light, short, good collection of accessories (including several different XLR, 3.5, and other adapter cables): http://ambient.de/en/product/atm216/ It's pretty nice, I'd say. Working from memory, I think it sounds better than the other cheap on-camera mics I've come across...though I currently mostly use it to slap on DSLRs and burritocams when the job calls for it. But it's not stereo. I guess the alternative to the little Sennheiser 440 stereo camera mic would be something from Rode, like one of their Stereo VideoMics: http://www.rode.com/microphones/video No first-hand experience with those two models, but I've worked with audio from some other cheapish Rode mics and they aren't terrible for the money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 The Sennheiser MKE 440 sounds good for its size. I have a client that often uses the C-300 body only on a jib for B-roll shots and likes to have camera mic. It works well and great for atmos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I think the stereo MKE-440 was announced at NAB in April and is scheduled to first ship about now. Don't think it's out in the wild yet. Here's the press release: http://en-us.sennheiser.com/news-best-video-sound-for-your-dslr And a picture: The Sennheiser MKE400 has been around for a while, and sounds OK for what it is (as others here say), but it's mono... I'll guess the 440 basically takes combines two 400s. Patrick, are you totally set on a stereo mic, or would a mono mic work for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 To shoot a docu, I've used a MS mic from Audio-Technica AT835ST. More than using the stereo capabilities of the mic, I found it very interesting to have an hyper cardio and a large eight in one mic, as the editor can choose if he wants to take the sound from what is in the front of the camera or play with what is out of frame. But this mic is a bit to cumbersome and needs 48v power. I don't have any idea if it would be better stereo or mono. But stereo gives me the impression that the speach gets clearer than a mono one due to what happens in the brain and how sounds are "decripted"... I'll rely on the sound engeneer to get a nice stereo sound though. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I have some post experience with this style of mic and the diff between the two wasn't enough to compensate for the hassle of having a bigger mic on the camera (and it gives producers the idea that this is somehow all the audio recording they need). The little shotguns are the best bang for buck for my money--small, light, easy to pull off the cam if it is in the way, small enough to mount up on a monitor if you have one in the camera shoe, decent mono audio. The side-mic always had more wind and handling and crew etc noise--I never used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tresch Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hello Philip, Do you speak of any small camera mic or a specific model? Whant is the "side-mic"? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 MS = 'mid' 'side' = cardioid (or similar) microphone for the mid/central (and mono) signal and a figure of '8' polar pattern microphone for the side (wide) signal = left right stereo signal(s?) when extrapolated through a matrix (M+S = L, M-S = R). *when the MS signals are recorded discretely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Duffy Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 For consideration - the TASCAM DR-10SG is a DLSR mounted compact mono shotgun with recorder. In stock now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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