afewmoreyears Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Jeff, please do away with this... Please. Agree with our friend Constantin... We've been subjected to enough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 54 minutes ago, Constantin said: Let me clarify a couple of things: - For me, it's not about Trump v Hillary, it's about not Trump - You seriously ask a German guy if he knows what a racist is? (No, that doesn't mean we're all racists, but we've had a few problems with some) - I am not pretending to suggest how to fix a country's problems, not here, not in the US. What gave you the impression? I do however have an opinion of what will likely be the wrong way. I hope you didn't watch that video, and believed it all, where supposedly Germany was basically taken over by ISIS. They even had islamic symbols on the Cologne cathedral. I live in Cologne and it's not true. Of course we have problems here, and if our elections and the politicians elected had any influence over the course of... the entire world, I would accept that other people/countries take a sharp interest in the outcome. And possibly worry about it. NATO is not a "program". It's an alliance of countries that ensured that the Cold War didn't turn hot and that later Russia and others didn't go around invading countries. It's not a service offered by the US for free to other countries, there already are no free rides. Yes, there are countries that can do more - and they should - but most are contributing based on their abilities. The US could possibly go it alone, but would greatly suffer, too, of a destabilized world. Anyway, I am sure this thread has gone on longer than Jeff would like, and I am bowing out of this conversation now. - I'm not sure what video you're talking about. Islamic symbols on the Cologne cathedral? No idea. - For me, it was about anyone but hillary. - NATO is a program if you're footing the majority of the bill. It is also an alliance, I know. But our ability to pick up the slack has been stretched thin. 36 minutes ago, afewmoreyears said: Jeff, please do away with this... Please. Agree with our friend Constantin... We've been subjected to enough.. Please note, I didn't start this thread. I just voice a different opinion than yours. Is that what you're offended by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 It's divisive.... find another avenue for the conversation regardless of my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 3 hours ago, afewmoreyears said: It's divisive.... find another avenue for the conversation regardless of my views. Like I said, I didn't start this thread. Don't make me out to be the bad guy, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afewmoreyears Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Dude, did I ever mention you !! This was a shout out to the thread, not anyone in particular. The world does not revolve around a guy MIRROR.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 The only time NATO has invoked the self defence clause was after the 9/11 attacks, 1000s of European troops have been injured and killed in the following wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and our involvement had political and economic impacts on most of us (putting aside the subsequent terror attacks we then faced). Pulling back from NATO is never going to happen, it's worth too many $$$ and in 20 years I'm sure America would not want Europe to be part of a different 'sphere of influence'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Mirror said: Like I said, I didn't start this thread. Don't make me out to be the bad guy, please. I did start this thread. And I feel like you raped it, nameless maniac. Jeff, please feel free to shut it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Christian Spaeth said: I did start this thread. And I feel like you raped it, nameless maniac. Jeff, please feel free to shut it down. You do know that political stuff has it's own place in this forum, not here in "Current". You broke the rules, not me. I raped it by not agreeing with you? Do you not think that there are 2 side to everything or is there only your side? If anything, I've added perspective to the thread. Maniac? Again, because I don't agree with you? You should go back and watch that video clip in post #49. He explains how name calling actually cost the libs the election. Don't be scared to watch it, it's VERY informative and he's on your side. Too many triggers and not enough safe spaces in today's world I guess... ...Toodles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wexler Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Okay, time to shut this one down... getting a little out of hand and way too personal. We'll see if the tone of this thread can get back to something civil or it's going to go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Thank you Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 22 hours ago, Mirror said: You do know that political stuff has it's own place in this forum, not here in "Current". You broke the rules, not me. I raped it by not agreeing with you? Do you not think that there are 2 side to everything or is there only your side? If anything, I've added perspective to the thread. Maniac? Again, because I don't agree with you? You should go back and watch that video clip in post #49. He explains how name calling actually cost the libs the election. Don't be scared to watch it, it's VERY informative and he's on your side. Too many triggers and not enough safe spaces in today's world I guess... ...Toodles... I think it's good to have an opinion, and I do think different opinions are alright, too, that's when a discussion can happen (though I didn't start this thread to have a political discussion). But imagine a discussion during which one person talks all the time with no end and keeps showing videos, as if they believe that their arguments can't stand for themselves. That's no fun. And, like Trump, someone who offends people all the time but himself is easily offended, also no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Re the politics of the anonymous signature (at the end of every post, in whatever topic): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek And (by coincidence) a critique of this ideology in today's paper: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/14/neoliberalsim-donald-trump-george-monbiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, daniel said: Re the politics of the anonymous signature (at the end of every post, in whatever topic): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek And (by coincidence) a critique of this ideology in today's paper: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/14/neoliberalsim-donald-trump-george-monbiot I also liked the politics of JFK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriskellett Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wait, the person who is afraid to use his own name in this public forum is posting a video making fun of "safe spaces"? That is rich, so rich. Carry on, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mirror said: I also liked the politics of JFK. Doh-nuts! (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 32 minutes ago, chriskellett said: Wait, the person who is afraid to use his own name in this public forum is posting a video making fun of "safe spaces"? That is rich, so rich. Carry on, please. it's my safe space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Althaus Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 never mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with political POV with Obama, but this is a good speech. He gave it yesterday during his visit at Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 14/11/2016 at 6:03 PM, Mirror said: it's my safe space. Safe from what? http://novaramedia.com/2016/11/22/is-steve-bannon-a-fascist/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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