Sixnon Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 http://www.rode.com/blog/all/freedman-electronics-purchases-soundfield No doubt a response to this kind of development http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/microphone-3d-audio-ambeo-vr-mic in the ambisonic realm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Niiiiice, looking forward to RODE releasing a very affordably priced ambisonic microphone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 I hope that not destroy the actual microphones, but the capsules of the SPS200 are MBHO (Other company) (IMMO a SPS200 with NT5 capsules would be a disaster). My concern about the Ambeo is the poor capsules that have, the same capsules as the e914 (IMMO an awful sounding mic). Please a MKH ambisonic, (Would be expensive 4000$) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Sennheiser with a version of 4 x 8040 Capsule would be nice yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Ear Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 I hope they maintain the high quality standards that soundfield has currently, and don't just dumb it down to a consumer version to fit with the rest of the rode products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Rode makes good stuff, so they know what good stuff is. I'm sure they bought SF because the SF rep is first class, so I bet they leave the high-end alone and maybe use some of the SF technology to make a cheaper less- great Rode-brand 4 cap mic, now that this kind of recording is so wildly fashionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanovich Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Like some of you have mentioned, I too hope they keep up the high standard of manufacturing on these mics..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixnon Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 16 hours ago, ramallo said: I hope that not destroy the actual microphones, but the capsules of the SPS200 are MBHO (Other company) (IMMO a SPS200 with NT5 capsules would be a disaster). My concern about the Ambeo is the poor capsules that have, the same capsules as the e914 (IMMO an awful sounding mic). Please a MKH ambisonic, (Would be expensive 4000$) This is confirmed somewhere Ramallo? I was unable to glean any information on capsules from the company or the retailer here where the Ambeo is in "preorder" status with a RRP of around $3300 AUD. Price seems very inflated if these are the capsules used. There's remarkably little information, samples etc for a product in production and shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 This is confirmed somewhere Ramallo? I was unable to glean any information on capsules from the company or the retailer here where the Ambeo is in "preorder" status with a RRP of around $3300 AUD. Price seems very inflated if these are the capsules used. There's remarkably little information, samples etc for a product in production and shipping. The capsule KE14 is mentioned on the Ambeo page linked in the first post. I believe, too, that it is the e914 capsule, but can't find a Sennheiser confirmation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Spaeth Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 On 23.11.2016 at 10:28 AM, IronFilm said: Niiiiice, looking forward to RODE releasing a very affordably priced ambisonic microphone? There's is one from Oktava that's kinda affordable, and in my book the Oktava capsules sound waaaay better than the Rodes. http://www.oktava-shop.com/Small-and-medium-diaphragm-condenser-mics/Oktava-MK-012-01-12.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASI Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 TSL has turned down the SurroundZone 2 plug-in after the announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 10 hours ago, Sixnon said: This is confirmed somewhere Ramallo? I was unable to glean any information on capsules from the company or the retailer here where the Ambeo is in "preorder" status with a RRP of around $3300 AUD. Price seems very inflated if these are the capsules used. There's remarkably little information, samples etc for a product in production and shipping. From the Ambeo page "AMBEO® VR Mic is an ambisonic microphone fitted with four matched KE 14" http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Sennheiser/e914 1 hour ago, Christian Spaeth said: There's is one from Oktava that's kinda affordable, and in my book the Oktava capsules sound waaaay better than the Rodes. http://www.oktava-shop.com/Small-and-medium-diaphragm-condenser-mics/Oktava-MK-012-01-12.html Too far apart the capsules, probably bad frequency response. Isn't cheap, the price is for the body, you need buy 4 capsules (Matched) 43 minutes ago, VAS said: TSL has turned down the SurroundZone 2 plug-in after the announcement. Turn down all the Soundfield pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 19 hours ago, Philip Perkins said: Rode makes good stuff, so they know what good stuff is. I'm sure they bought SF because the SF rep is first class, so I bet they leave the high-end alone and maybe use some of the SF technology to make a cheaper less- great Rode-brand 4 cap mic, now that this kind of recording is so wildly fashionable. I would bet on this prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixnon Posted November 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 17 hours ago, Constantin said: The capsule KE14 is mentioned on the Ambeo page linked in the first post. I believe, too, that it is the e914 capsule, but can't find a Sennheiser confirmation Yes, thanks Constantin, I could not find reference to that capsule elsewhere on other mics in my initial search. Now that I see the information on the recording hack page that Ramallo linked to, I see it's a 14mm capsule. When I asked the local retailer details of the capsule "is it something like a 20mm small condenser capsule?" "yeah something around that" was the response. 8 hours ago, ramallo said: From the Ambeo page "AMBEO® VR Mic is an ambisonic microphone fitted with four matched KE 14" http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Sennheiser/e914 Too far apart the capsules, probably bad frequency response. Isn't cheap, the price is for the body, you need buy 4 capsules (Matched) Turn down all the Soundfield pages Safe to say there's nothing really innovative here and (given that the RRP of the e914 is less than $400) pricing is more reflective of market fashion than technological merit? 7 hours ago, Jose Frias said: I would bet on this prediction. Jose did you have any chance to work with the Audeze Tetrahedral you mentioned when I raised the subject of the Sennheiser "VR" mic some months back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Frias Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Sixnon said: Jose did you have any chance to work with the Audeze Tetrahedral you mentioned when I raised the subject of the Sennheiser "VR" mic some months back? Hey, I have not, unfortunately. The mic does look very promising, but I don't know that I would be able to use it on location. It does look quite bigger than my SPS200, and while I haven't had anyone give me any fight with using the SPS200 on the VR / 360 shoots I do, I personally wish it was even smaller (without obviously sacrificing sound - I know, tall order) for easier concealing and/or stitching in post. Have you tried it? Have you compared it to any of the other common tetrahedral mics? Thoughts? Sample recordings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixnon Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Jose Frias said: Have you tried it? Have you compared it to any of the other common tetrahedral mics? Thoughts? Sample recordings? No, haven't tried it. Audeze have pricing information but the Australian distributor of the impression that it's not even in production as yet. I remain interested as at least it appears to be an innovation. I know that planar magnetic contact systems are very good, so am intrigued to see how this sounds. You're out of luck viz size as the capsule, according to the what promotional material exists, is 100mm! No sample recordings that I know of, it strikes me as strange that these manufacturers do not make more effort in this regard. If one is forking over 3-4k for a mic, knowing a little how it sounds quite important, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 15 hours ago, Sixnon said: Safe to say there's nothing really innovative here and (given that the RRP of the e914 is less than $400) pricing is more reflective of market fashion than technological merit? On the Sennheiser website they list the price of the e914 at 427€, I believe. The Ambeo is listed at 1779€. So the Ambeo is only a little bit more expensive than 4 e914s, which I'd say isn't too bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramallo Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 21 hours ago, Sixnon said: No, haven't tried it. Audeze have pricing information but the Australian distributor of the impression that it's not even in production as yet. I remain interested as at least it appears to be an innovation. I know that planar magnetic contact systems are very good, so am intrigued to see how this sounds. You're out of luck viz size as the capsule, according to the what promotional material exists, is 100mm! No sample recordings that I know of, it strikes me as strange that these manufacturers do not make more effort in this regard. If one is forking over 3-4k for a mic, knowing a little how it sounds quite important, no? 100mm?, impressed, very heavy membrane for a microphone (Probably good for a light sub kick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Please don't change the capsules or 'recreate' the capsule Mr Rode... The soundfield capsule is nice as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixnon Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 On 26/11/2016 at 0:44 AM, Constantin said: n the Sennheiser website they list the price of the e914 at 427€, I believe. The Ambeo is listed at 1779€. So the Ambeo is only a little bit more expensive than 4 e914s, which I'd say isn't too bad... I calculated based on the recording hacks i.e. US rrp and the rrp for the Ambeo in Australia (I couldn't find a local price for e914 in my initial searches) and it works out to about $1200 AUD more than four e914's. I appreciate that the European retail of the Ambeo is less. On 26/11/2016 at 1:33 PM, ramallo said: 100mm?, impressed, very heavy membrane for a microphone (Probably good for a light sub kick) There it is in their ad copy.. Quote Think you have a large diaphragm condenser microphone? Not so much anymore! At 100mm diameter Audeze’s new mics give the phrase “large diaphragm” a whole new meaning. Does raise the question of where to place it in VR situations, as Jose mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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