Tommy Stefanov Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Hey everybody, my question is if use separate preamps, AD convertors etc, is better then of all in one! I mean there are good enough and proven mixer/recorders with great pres and ADC. I am asking because I saw a cart with set up like this: Two Lectrosonics Venue 2 AD 149 Metric Halo LIO 8 feeding AES input of Sound devices 788 SDD. So I'll be glad to know how big the difference is working with set up like this VS working with DEVA or Cantar for example! Thank you in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGraham045 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Every system is different. There is nothing wrong with using a high quality all in one machine. Nothing wrong with using external preamps and converters. Each has advantages and disadvantages which are fairly obvious... being size and flexability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Metric halo make very good equipment. So does sound devices. Kgraham is right depends on what younwant to do and need to do. You may find the 788 is enough and the halo as good as it is may be overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 It depends on your tolerance for complexity (which adds possible points-of-failure to the system), how rough the gear will be treated (working outdoors in weather, trundling the cart through uneven ground, working off of trucks that drive on bad roads etc) as well as your own sonic prefs. I would say the trend I see anymore is for simplification--hence the popularity of the 688+CL12 combo or Nomad/Mix8 (and others like them). In my music etc work I do sometimes go for sep preamps etc, even though it adds a lot of patching to the system, it depends on what is being recorded. Some of us balance our interest in high fidelity recording with the knowledge that modern movie sets are high-ambient-noise environments, often, and our tracks will get much worked-over in post, so "excellent" sonics that can be deployed fast and compactly and are very "combat-ready" work better than "superb" sonics that are more fragile, slower, and require more attention and space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I've also had a really good look at the metric halo lio-8 for similar reasons but at another point in the signal chain- I've found there's a noticeable difference in noise floor using the converters on my wisycom mcr42 receivers, so would be looking at splitting their signal in the lio-8 running analogue outs to the ad149 and staying digital to run to the recorder isos. I haven't bought an lio-8 yet (and found it's surprisingly big, it won't fit my current cart) and would prefer a control surface. It does offer an advantage too of being able to run playback, secondary recording and processing (i.e. Isotope for reference) as an interface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourtelot Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 KISS is the key for a location rig. It will break down, even the simplest rig, and thew last thing you want in a work day is the 1st AD pacing around behind your cart asking how long you think it will be before you are ready to roll. . . over and over again. The "big boys" who run complicated carts have backups for everything including spare mixers and recorders, cart power supplies, looms, RF receiver racks, redundant cables of every type, and "fix-a-flat" for their cart tires. They fill up whole 24' trailers with their stuff. If anything breaks, they just send the utility to the trailer for the replacement and to box up the broken piece to FedEx to the shop for repair. They can't be down for a minute. For most of us, the most bomb-proof the better. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Stefanov Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Thank you sound bros! This is the set up I work it at the moment and for TV series it is enough for me and production needs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Keep it simple. It has always been my way of doing things. Less cables, AES, Blah blah. It's OK to think about fidelity. We all do. But someone made great point about field work. It's field work. I am working on REIGN Season 4. It can be dusty, dirty, muddy, Raining, Snowing.. I use Tommy's setup above. I have a second 788t for backup. I plan on getting the Cantar-X3. I own an X1. For me I like having a dedicated machine. It's designed for our purpose, and for what it's worth, I like that piece of mind. My work for a long time was Documentary. I would be in the middle of nowhere in Africa. If I can't roll, big trouble. I know a few guys who run a laptop setup, and it's fine for them. I'm just not comfortable with it. It is preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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