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Cantar X3 Mini

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Price: 7.600€ ext VAT

Specifications

Analog and Digital Inputs:

- 4 low noise mic inputs, preamps with very high quality transformer. 48V Phantom, limiters, filters and EQ - 2 balanced line inputs
- AES digital inputs include 2 AES42 (mode 2) / AES3 pairs (4 mono channels)
- Built-In Slate Mic with External Slate Mic Input on 3.5mm connector Outputs
- 8 Analog line level outputs
- 4 AES3 Digital outputs on SubD HD 15

4 Recording Media

- Simultaneous recording to internal mSATA 256 GB SSD drive, two SD cards and USB external drive Metering and Controls
- Ultra bright large swiveling display panel, visibility optimized for shoulder work or cart, auto adjust brigthness - One large rotary selector for easy operations in any situations
- On board ten channel sliders plate with magnetic linear assignable sliders
- Direct access to monitoring and set-up functions through dedicated buttons

Power

- Two identical on board quick release Lithium smart batteries ensure seamless switchover during recording Up to 11 hours autonomy when using “stand by” mode
- One XLR4 DC 13-17 Volts input for extra power when working on cart

Main features

- All inputs can be routed to any of the 16 tracks, linear control sliders addressable to any inputs and output - All tracks and inputs can be routed to 8 analog auxiliary outputs and /or 4 digital outputs
- Native Monophonic BWF recording with optional Polyphonic real-time mirroring to removable media
- USB keyboard inputs for easy metadata editing and routing control
- Enhanced Playback Monitoring with Waveform Display on front panel
- Self-Generated PDF,CSV and ALE Sound Reports embedded with deliverable media - Compatible with Cantarem2

General Specifications

- Open mechanical structure with independent Analog, Digital and Display modules for easy maintenance and - ‘anti-obsolescence’ - upgrades.
- Housing made of machined avionic aluminum. Water and dust resistant
- Dimensions: 259 X 234 X 90 mm – 10,2 x 9,2 x 3,5 inches
- Weight: 2,8 Kg with two batteries

Cantar Mini specifications

Connectivity Inputs & outputs
- 4 Balanced Analog TA3M Mic/Line
- 1 SubDHD15 (2 pair AES42 inputs / AES3 input & output) - 1 Gigabit Ethernet (1 PC Connect)
- 2 USB2 (Keyboard, external devices)
- 1 6.35mm (Headphone output)
- 1 3.5mm (Headphone output/ External slate mic input)
- 1 XLR4 (DC Input)
- 1 Hirose 4 pins (DC Output 500mA)
- 1 Lemo 5 (Timecode)
- 1 SubD25 (Balanced Analog Out )
- Wi-Fi (Web app based communication)
Additional Features
- mixdown can be assigned to any tracks
- Simultaneous recording to multiple media, or backup copying of recorded tracks post-record
- New improved interface menu accessible through buttons and jog wheel. All inputs and outputs monitoring and routing accessible through comprehensive and intuitive menus
- 16 or 24-bit Broadcast Wave File recording at sample rates from 44.1kHz~192kHz with support for pull-up/down recording rates
- Sample Rate Converters on all Digital Inputs
- Variable Delays on all analog Inputs
- 30 Second Pre-Record Buffer
- Generous 48V Phantom supply guarantees 8mA to each of the 4 Mics inputs
- High-Pass filters before the preamp stage, LFA and EQ
- Metadata entry of Scene, Take, Notes, Track Names, Roll and more with support for US
and Euro-centric metadata templates
- Aaton AutoSlate automatic slate clap detection and logging
- M/S Recorded Tracks automatically decoded to L/R for Mixdown and/or monitoring
- Cantar Mini reads and displays battery metadata

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Is the big screen going to gobble through batteries a bit fast for a bag recorder? RX underneath? Nice kit though and keen price.

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19 minutes ago, VAS said:

 

Connectivity Inputs & outputs
- 4 Balanced Analog TA3M Mic/Line
- 1 SubDHD15 (2 pair AES42 inputs / AES3 input & output) - 1 Gigabit Ethernet (1 PC Connect)

- 1 SubD25 (Balanced Analog Out )
 

Well there's 'mini' and then there's 'mini, nb requires a bag of accessories for the simplest connection'.

TA3M?

How big exactly are 6 or 8 XLRs that meant this had to be a cable-monster to use?

Jez Adamson

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1 minute ago, The Immoral Mr Teas said:

Well there's 'mini' and then there's 'mini, nb requires a bag of accessories for the simplest connection'.

TA3M?

How big exactly are 6 or 8 XLRs that meant this had to be a cable-monster to use?

Jez Adamson

A small price to pay but there's always the F8.

 

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48 minutes ago, daniel said:

A small price to pay but there's always the F8.

 

Plenty of room for other gadgets/features ... 10 linear faders and a huge screen. I think they perhaps looked hard at the F8 ergonomics in the design stage (TA3M outputs etc) ... ! No, a doggy bag of cable adapters just to plug a mic that isn't an Audix into it is a huge price to pay, and I never thought I'd say it of the Cantar family (my favourite machines after the IV-S) but I reckon a serious design failure, and one I hope they manage to change before the assembly line.

Jez

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It seems a little odd to have a 16 track recorder with only 10 total analog and digital inputs.  With 2 tracks for mix, what is the purpose of the extra 4 tracks?   I would love to see this configuration with 8 aes instead of 4.

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7 minutes ago, Wandering Ear said:

It seems a little odd to have a 16 track recorder with only 10 total analog and digital inputs.  With 2 tracks for mix, what is the purpose of the extra 4 tracks?   I would love to see this configuration with 8 aes instead of 4.

I am a little confused by this too. Also in the specs posted above, one section seems to say that there are 4 mic inputs plus 2 line inputs, then later it just says 4 mic/line inputs. Can anyone clarify?

-Mike

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 I reckon Mini is quite a cool piece of kit. All the quality of the X3 but scaled back. I am quite a fan of much lighter TA3s - the 5 pin XLRs on my X3s are all converted and I use the Rean XLR3 to TA3 converters. Horses for courses.

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8 minutes ago, Mobilemike said:

I am a little confused by this too. Also in the specs posted above, one section seems to say that there are 4 mic inputs plus 2 line inputs, then later it just says 4 mic/line inputs. Can anyone clarify?

-Mike

It is definitely 4 x transformer balanced mic/line plus 2 dedicated asymmetric line inputs. A total of 6 analogue. 

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Plenty of room for other gadgets/features ... 10 linear faders and a huge screen. I think they perhaps looked hard at the F8 ergonomics in the design stage (TA3M outputs etc) ... ! No, a doggy bag of cable adapters just to plug a mic that isn't an Audix into it is a huge price to pay, and I never thought I'd say it of the Cantar family (my favourite machines after the IV-S) but I reckon a serious design failure, and one I hope they manage to change before the assembly line.
Jez

The TA3 isn't exactly a Zoom invention. SD have them on all of their recorders, Lectro have them on various devices - incl. Octopack, which arguably might have had enough space for 8 XLR outputs.
And you really don't need a doggy bag full of cable adapters, you just need one. Or, just make your own cable. One end, full size XLR the other end TA3. I really hope they won't change that, it's better to keep the size small, and for me personally, should I use it in a bag I'd find it easier with the short adapter ends.
And if you do want a Cantar with full size XLRs they have one already. It's the X3.

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I think ta3's are a good idea.  Smaller size, and a lot less weight.  I don't mind the ta5's on my nomad either.  With a couple adaptor cables I only have to carry the weight of xlrs when I'm using them.

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It's really cool, but not seeing how it would be "wearable"?   The RX would be underneath in a bag or..?  No automix?   More expensive than 688 in USA $...fewer inputs, but built in sliders and big screen w/o needing an iPad = sweet.

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I can imagine a bag setup where the X3 mini sits farthest out and the wireless sit between the X3 and your belly. If using an RF distro the antennas would be out of the way. 

 

Better veiwing angle this way too maybe. Less neck strain. 

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 “Research tells us that the Cantar Mini will be a desirable product for those professionals who already have one or two CantarX3s and want to have an additional, more lightweight recorder for particular tasks, perhaps with a boom, or to work with the recorder shoulder mounted.”

How on earth would you use this shoulder mounted??

 

I too am very curious to see what this set up would look like! 

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