Prahlad Strickland Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Until I grab a camera link, just wondering if anyone has used a 742 with the stereo cone to send a stereo feed to an rx200 or 235? That way it's a nice option in the the meantime as I can send TC from the nomad's zaxnet feed to the rx200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I've done it in a pinch. It will work. Obviously you have to worry about batteries among other small things but the answer is yes. It will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 You should use the AES cone. And also power the 742 from 5V 10000mah battery with battery eliminators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 17 hours ago, Prahlad Strickland said: I can send TC from the nomad's zaxnet feed to the rx200 Sorry you can't feed the RX200 tc via zaxnet. The RX200 can only receive tc that's embedded in the uhf signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 51 minutes ago, Jack Norflus said: Sorry you can't feed the RX200 tc via zaxnet. The RX200 can only receive tc that's embedded in the uhf signal. Hello all, I'm glad Jack caught that. I wasn't thinking about that zaxnet tc comment. I guess I'm thinking your still ok, your still going to get timecode to the rx200, even if you don't want it. Sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Same here. Just mentioned the transmission aspects of it which works great. Also he could jam the 742 and the rx200 sees TC no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Might want to test the setup for interference to your receivers in the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Derek H said: Might want to test the setup for interference to your receivers in the bag. The camera link does have extra filters to prevent interference that the 742 doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Yeah that's what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 But in a pinch the 742 would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Thanks for the replies. I see, well the 742 would still be recieving TC from the nomad zaxnet right?, and forwarding to the RX200??, Can anyone confirm this?, I can't see why that wouldn't work? I plan to run it on the upper register of block 23 and the bag receivers on block middle to lower 21, It's just temporary, but a cool backup to the camera link long term and other setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I know someone who very successfully uses 742 (stereo / twin feed cone) with RX200, I'll see if I can get him to join in here........ I believe the 742 can embed TC in UHF can't it? Anyway he's done it successfully, and also accurately tested the TC for latency and the delay is negligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Prahlad Strickland said: Thanks for the replies. I see, well the 742 would still be recieving TC from the nomad zaxnet right?, and forwarding to the RX200??, Can anyone confirm this?, I can't see why that wouldn't work? I plan to run it on the upper register of block 23 and the bag receivers on block middle to lower 21, It's just temporary, but a cool backup to the camera link long term and other setups. Prahlad, I understand your thinking about the Zaxnet, it's really easy to get lost in the explanation. There is not Zaxnet forwarding from the transmitter to the rx200. There are no zaxnet frequency settings in the RX200. Or any other Zaxnet settings in the RX200 for that matter. The RX200 is obtaining the TC from the UHF signal from the transmitter. Your still getting to go to the dance, your just not getting there how you thought you were. I will admit, that was odd for me when I started using RX200, but it finally sank in. Sincerely, Martin 4 hours ago, pindrop said: I know someone who very successfully uses 742 (stereo / twin feed cone) with RX200, I'll see if I can get him to join in here........ I believe the 742 can embed TC in UHF can't it? Anyway he's done it successfully, and also accurately tested the TC for latency and the delay is negligible. Pindrop, Great, now I have to go test the RX200 to see how the TC stacks up to all the other components. I never thought about that one. Maybe I will go test that tonight. Sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Deakin Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 the rx200 is a beast. In a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, Glen Deakin said: the rx200 is a beast. In a good way. Glen, Yes it is. I just never gave any thought to any possibility that it could be, in any measurable way, not in sync with everything else. I'm just accustomed to thinking in terms of Zaxnet and how super accurate that is. You could shoot for 2 weeks and if you had external power running to the ERX, you would still have sync. Sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted March 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 When I say the 742 would be receiving TC from the Nomad and forwarding to the rx200, i'm not saying it would forward via zaxnet, I meant it would forward as you explained earlier embedded in the UHF feed, correct? Receives TC from zaxnet, embeds in the UHF. Well at least if it can do this than it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Prahlad, yes. TC from Nomad (or from Ifb) to transmitter via zaxnet. From transmitter to RX200 TC via UHF. Which is just plain weird, but it works great. It's all really easy, and magical, when you have all the pieces sitting there in front of you. You will like it. Sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Norflus Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 12 hours ago, Prahlad Strickland said: Thanks for the replies. I see, well the 742 would still be recieving TC from the nomad zaxnet right?, and forwarding to the RX200??, Can anyone confirm this?, I can't see why that wouldn't work? The 742 can receive TC via ZaxNet and then send that TC over UHF to the RX200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 01/03/2017 at 8:56 PM, Jack Norflus said: The 742 can receive TC via ZaxNet and then send that TC over UHF to the RX200. Would you say that Zaxcom are a little coy about this ability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 4 hours ago, pindrop said: Would you say that Zaxcom are a little coy about this ability? Pin, Which definition of the word Coy are you referring to? What is meant by your question, what are you trying to gather? sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindrop Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, MartinTheMixer said: Pin, Which definition of the word Coy are you referring to? What is meant by your question, what are you trying to gather? sincerely, Martin "reluctant to give details about something regarded as sensitive" In that the recommended route might be to use the TRX900CL Camera Link, and not the TRX743/2 as a camera link, though the 742/3 has been shown to be capable of Zaxnet to UHF timecode translation without any significant latency? This ability is not mentioned on the website, the firmware release notes / version history, or the manuals, as far as I am aware. It's quite a useful ability, and means you don't lose ther TC ability of the RX200 by using the 742/3 as a camera hop. Does the 742/3 have 100Mhz of bandwidth compared with the 40Mhz of the CL which is also quite a useful ability? Apparently the TRX900CL has 'a band pass filter that eliminates interference to receivers spaced 1 block away or better from the TRX900CL block.' Though I don't know what this means really or what real difference it might make to incoming talent TX range when used in the same bag as a QRX for example? The 742/3 might have the ability to keep well clear of any significant range reduction anyway with it's 100Mhz bandwidth? It seems possible...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 9 hours ago, pindrop said: "reluctant to give details about something regarded as sensitive" In that the recommended route might be to use the TRX900CL Camera Link, and not the TRX743/2 as a camera link, though the 742/3 has been shown to be capable of Zaxnet to UHF timecode translation without any significant latency? This ability is not mentioned on the website, the firmware release notes / version history, or the manuals, as far as I am aware. It's quite a useful ability, and means you don't lose ther TC ability of the RX200 by using the 742/3 as a camera hop. Does the 742/3 have 100Mhz of bandwidth compared with the 40Mhz of the CL which is also quite a useful ability? Apparently the TRX900CL has 'a band pass filter that eliminates interference to receivers spaced 1 block away or better from the TRX900CL block.' Though I don't know what this means really or what real difference it might make to incoming talent TX range when used in the same bag as a QRX for example? The 742/3 might have the ability to keep well clear of any significant range reduction anyway with it's 100Mhz bandwidth? It seems possible...... Pin, There are a lot of things you can mix and match that aren't on manufacturers websites. I can use the old aes42 attachment on one of the old transmitters to send to rx200 also, but it might not be on there site, because they don't make them anymore. I don't think their hiding anything, or coy. You have to admit, the 742 or 743 is an odd form factor to do this with. With the old transmitter, I can turn the trans power all the way down, keep it about 3.5 feet (about a meter) away from the other receivers, and have no interference. Sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahlad Strickland Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 On 3/4/2017 at 8:29 PM, MartinTheMixer said: Pin, There are a lot of things you can mix and match that aren't on manufacturers websites. I can use the old aes42 attachment on one of the old transmitters to send to rx200 also, but it might not be on there site, because they don't make them anymore. I don't think their hiding anything, or coy. You have to admit, the 742 or 743 is an odd form factor to do this with. With the old transmitter, I can turn the trans power all the way down, keep it about 3.5 feet (about a meter) away from the other receivers, and have no interference. Sincerely, Martin I run the 742 at 25mw on my boom while carrying the bag all the time, almost always, doesn't seem to effect the range much of the talent TX running on the same block range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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