mojofunkster Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm wanting to basically have automix on my lavs, but have a base level of my boom to give it some space. Anytime I try to add the boom in the output, it stops automix from happening. Any idea on how to do this? Thanks, SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGraham045 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I generally try not to use automix but when I do I generally route all the Wires to one track with automix and have your boom routed post fader on another track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Mojo, I agree with Kyle. The only way I would have boom going to automix is if I had, say 4 booms sitting over the Beatles sitting in 4 chairs on a stage, with no lavs. Why are you thinking mixing boom with lav? What are you trying to accomplish? Thank you, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, MartinTheMixer said: Mojo, I agree with Kyle. The only way I would have boom going to automix is if I had, say 4 booms sitting over the Beatles sitting in 4 chairs on a stage, with no lavs. Why are you thinking mixing boom with lav? What are you trying to accomplish? Thank you, Martin To scoop up some lines from someone who's not lav'd or add some 'atmos' to complement the lavs? Kyle, in experimenting with Dugan automix (633) I've used the main mix bus for the automix only and then sent this and the boom to the Aux (in varying degrees). Does automix behave in the same way whatever the ratio of boom to lavs? And however the boom and lavs are panned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbiesodd Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 To achieve this, I have AM (post fader mode) engaged on my Lavs (Tracks 2-8) and not on my Boom (Track 1) - all of which are then routed post fader to a mono mix track and IFB feed. Works great for me. Cheers, Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, daniel said: To scoop up some lines from someone who's not lav'd or add some 'atmos' to complement the lavs? Kyle, in experimenting with Dugan automix (633) I've used the main mix bus for the automix only and then sent this and the boom to the Aux (in varying degrees). Does automix behave in the same way whatever the ratio of boom to lavs? And however the boom and lavs are panned? Daniel, I understand why you're recording the boom, but my question is why are you recording the boom to the Automix track, I can't see how that would be of quality. Sincerely, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGraham045 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, MartinTheMixer said: Daniel, I understand why you're recording the boom, but my question is why are you recording the boom to the Automix track, I can't see how that would be of quality. Sincerely, Martin +1 I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 13 hours ago, MartinTheMixer said: Daniel, I understand why you're recording the boom, but my question is why are you recording the boom to the Automix track, I can't see how that would be of quality. Sincerely, Martin Not routing boom to AM (myself). I've routed the AM to an Aux track along with some 'atmos' boom (post low level fade). Partly to audition how this would sound, if something similar gets done in post. Outcome is editor still gets dry automix on main LR, but has an option to use something less dry - ie boom faded in so ambient sound matches the noise floor of AM. The difference is pretty subtle (depending what's going on), phasing not an issue. Everything iso'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTheMixer Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, daniel said: Not routing boom to AM (myself). I've routed the AM to an Aux track along with some 'atmos' boom (post low level fade). Partly to audition how this would sound, if something similar gets done in post. Outcome is editor still gets dry automix on main LR, but has an option to use something less dry - ie boom faded in so ambient sound matches the noise floor of AM. The difference is pretty subtle (depending what's going on), phasing not an issue. Everything iso'd. Daniel, I understand, I meant that more for the original poster, not you. Thank you, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojofunkster Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Martin, I was trying to do what Daniel said, sorry for the bad description of what I was trying to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, mojofunkster said: Martin, I was trying to do what Daniel said, sorry for the bad description of what I was trying to do. The limitations of only using the main mix bus for the AM is you have to use the Aux O/Ps for camera send with boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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