100cl Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 How's the range in optimal RF conditions... Is the 195d much better? I plan to use a rode lavalier mic with it; would it work with a Ta5f adapter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 They're not frequency agile. And the receivers are don't have antenna diversity. (but the UCR195D does, that is what the "D" stands for: diversity) But if you're being offered them at a crazy low price (such as say half of what a secondhand G3 might go for?) then I might not say no to it?! Maaaaybe. However you wouldn't ever ever want them to be the only wireless in your kit, as that very old stuff just has far too many downsides to it. Realistically speaking, the minimum Lectrosonics you should look at is the 200 series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Very selective receiver with narrow front end using helical resonators. Selective IF using crystal filters. The most RF selective, bullet proof, single frequency receiver we ever made but note the word "single" frequency. If somebody is on the same frequency, you can not change to a different frequency. Also, the local oscillator crystal is not as shock proof as newer frequency agile units so dropping these on concrete is chancy. The repair would be equal to the used cost (or more) of these units. There are some users running them as backup units. Of course there are still a lot of 185 VHF systems still in operation. Best Regards, Larry Fisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 "185 VHF systems still in operation". 1 here, 193.??? MHz as I recall, very seldom do I use it, but it still works. The VHS range is less crowded these days than when I bought it back in the 90s. 1 minute ago, Rick Reineke said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I rode my 185s well into the UHF age. Bill Ruck used to say that they basically ended his RF maintenance business, since they required far less frequent tuning (on a bench) than the wirelesses we had prior to those. I still miss those tiny, rugged RX. The long antennas, not so much. 1 9v batt for the RX!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I still have a 187 system. Couldn't sell it for squat. And as Rick says, VHS feels wide open these days; it's gotten me out of a couple jams. Also, I have the stick TX for it. Like Larry implies (and btw, 100cl, Larry is the retired head of Lectro, so he knows what he's talking about), I don't think I'd add another 180 or 190 series system to my collection. If money's tight and you want Lectro, maybe look at a used 200-series system...like a 211 receiver and a UM200C transmitter...in an appropriate frequency block for where you work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 +1 anything 200-onward. Later Lectros (hybrid) sound better to me than 211s etc, but range wise I never noticed a diff with my 411, SR etc stuff. 200s use A LOT of power, is the main downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryF Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Philip Perkins said: +1 anything 200-onward. Later Lectros (hybrid) sound better to me than 211s etc, but range wise I never noticed a diff with my 411, SR etc stuff. 200s use A LOT of power, is the main downside. Indeed, the UCR200 was a pretty decent hand warmer. We had good use reports from Siberia; not so good from Panama. The UCR205 and higher 2xx numbers used switching power supplies and, shall we say, more careful design to reduce the current draw by half and the power draw at higher input voltages by even more. Best Regards, Larry Fisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 I do like that my collection of UCR210D run on AA batteries (but *four* of them!), less of a reliance on 9V the better. (but still need them in my UM200/UM400/LMb/etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) VHF was never a good choice in our busier cities here also the propagation of VHF is not as reliable as UHF when there are obstacles. I did run a 4 pack of 195D's from 1997 till frequency changes forced me to sell them (plus two 200 channels) about 5 years ago. I now have 6 x 400 kits plus 4 x MM400 kits The digital generation of Lectrosonics units perform so well but it's a shame that in NZ we continue to face frequency changes and struggling around the ever increasing DTV channels. mike Edited July 26, 2018 by mikewest addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 54 minutes ago, mikewest said: The digital generation of Lectrosonics units perform so well but it's a shame that in NZ we continue to face frequency changes and struggling around the ever increasing DTV channels. I really hope our government doesn't sell off the 600MHz block like there is the talk of them maybe considering doing, as if they do then we've got very few places left to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpro Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Welcome to T Mobile here, made block 24 and up obsolete, plus a bit of 23. Oh well more dollars for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Yes, I know about that, makes sourcing secondhand 600MHz gear cheaper for me! 😉 But we lack the same room for everyone to move elsewhere into 500MHz like there is in the USA if we were to lose our 600MHz block. Worth a read these submissions if you're curious as to what is going on in New Zealand with our 600MHz wireless frequencies:https://www.rsm.govt.nz/projects-auctions/current-projects/preparing-for-5g-in-new-zealand/folder-600-mhz-band-and-radio-microphones/Radio microphones and 600 MHz band - with attachments included.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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