Pip Dolan Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hey guys, I am sure this has been covered before on here but I was wondering if anyone could tell me their process for working on a shoot. I am really new to this area of audio (I recently had a lecture from a soundie at SAE where i'm studying audio and was inspired so much so that I am starting a company with a friend) and need to learn the ins and outs before I try my hand at it! Any advice at all is much appreciated. Cheers, Pip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 My advice is to try seeing other people do it first before you try to do it yourself. That goes for just about any profession. You can't learn everything you need to know by reading books, attending lectures, or asking questions on user groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 If you're interested in learning about production sound, check out these books: Producing Great Sound for Digital Video by Jay Rose published by CMP Books [iSBN 1578202086] Audio Postproduction for Digital Video by Jay Rose published by CMP Books [iSBN 1578201160] Sound for Film and Television by Tomlinson Holman published by Focal Press [iSBN 0240804538] Sound for Digital Video by Tomlinson Holman published by Focal Press [iSBN 0240807200] Sound for Picture by Tom Kenny published by Artistpro [iSBN 0872887243] The Foley Grail: The Art of Performing Sound for Film, Games, and Animation by Vanessa Theme Ament published by Focal Press [iSBN 0240811259] Sound-On-Film: Interviews with Creators of Film Sound by Vincent LoBrutto published by Praeger [iSBN 0275944433] Roll Sound: A Practical Guide for Location Audio by John Fielden published by CreateSpace [iSBN 1450549837] Location Audio Simplified by Dean Miles http://www.locationa...simplified.com/ The Practical Art of Motion Picture Sound by David L. Yewdall published by Focal Press [iSBN 0240802888] Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures: A Guide to the Invisible Art by John Purcell published by Focal Press [iSBN 0240809181] Each of these has tons of information on the subject, specific techniques, solutions for problems, the history of the technological developments, and the theory behind good practices. For a student leaning towards location sound, I would read the latter four books first. Be warned that, like all books on technology, these tend to go out of date very quickly. Be sure to get the latest editions, if newer ones are available. There's also a good bibliography at this link: http://www.filmsound...hy/littlist.htm Bear in mind that nothing is better than practical experience, especially working alongside someone who's done this for years and knows what he or she is doing. --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 "Roll Sound" A Practical Guide for Location Audio, by John Fielden, a production Sound Mixer (Lost, Baywatch, etc). www.rollsound.myplanetpress.com or amazon.com replying to this question makes me think that you might want to try out equipment (rental) before buying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Dolan Posted September 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I have looked at that book before. I'm now ordering it as we speak Thanks mate. Mark, thanks so much for that extensive list. It's amazing how dedicated and helpful people are on this forum! I will be sure to look for some of those titles next time i'm in the campus library! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Dolan Posted September 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Oleg, I don't even think I would have enough to purchase these coffees and lunches after the plane ticket! I'd have to take up busking, and trust me I wouldn't earn much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddguy Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Sound Man Richard Patton Location Sound ltd 2010 ISBN 978 0 9866077 0 7 Location Sound Bible Ric Viers Michael Wiese Productions 2012 ISBN 978 1 61593 120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Richard Patton's book is very informative -- I chuckled at how his first chapter was on how to negotiate a rate, how a contract works, how to keep your financial records straight, what to watch out for in a deal memo, and how to get paid. All that, before microphone theory, how mixing panels work, how recorders work, and so on. Richard's got a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I have looked at that book before. I'm now ordering it as we speak I believe that you'd find "Location Audio SImplfied" (www.locationaudiosimplified.com) better if you're starting out. The Jay Rose books (in particular, "Producing Great Sound for Digital Video") are also excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I gotta say, Robert Sharman's two-year old advice above is still absolutely true: learning how to do location sound from a book is kinda like trying to learn how to ride a bicycle from a book. You can get the theory to a point, but it's not the same as learning good practices from experienced people, and actually doing it in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaAudio Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 ...learning how to do location sound from a book is kinda like trying to learn how to ride a bicycle from a book. You can get the theory to a point, but it's not the same as learning good practices from experienced people, and actually doing it in the field. But if you're living in the middle of nowhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhobbit Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Omaha is not nowhere, but you can see it from here. Check it out from the top of the Woodman or if you can get to the top of the First National Bank building. Scott...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioshepherd Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Ooh! Who can advise a book for a total Wireless newbie? I know absolutely nothing about this. Thanks & sorry to the O.P. for a semi-hijack. :B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Boisvert Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Ooh! Who can advise a book for a total Wireless newbie? I know absolutely nothing about this. Thanks & sorry to the O.P. for a semi-hijack. :B Lectro's wireless guide is a great place to start, and their FAQ will keep you busy for hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioshepherd Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 That's precisely what I needed! Thank you, Andre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddguy Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I believe that you'd find "Location Audio SImplfied" (www.locationaudiosimplified.com) better if you're starting out. Does anyone know if the ibook version the same as the printed version from 2010 or is it a newer version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engaudio Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 The Practical Art of Motion Picture Sound by David L. Yewdall published by Focal Press [iSBN 0240802888] --Marc W. There's a photo of me at work in the latest addition, apparently.. Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sounddguy Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Not as much detail as some above, but a good read: Soundtrack Success: A Digital Storyteller's Guide to Audio Post-Production Jeffrey P. Fisher Course Technology 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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