RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Few questions. 1: Will mole skin hold the lavs all night? maybe some champagne/booze wet hazard. 2: What would be a good/safe way of wiring the mics? Two girls with dresses and no bra or underwear. Hahahahah Seriously. In the production meeting I asked them what they would be wearing. They said a dress and no underwear. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Few questions. 1: Will mole skin hold the lavs all night? maybe some champagne/booze wet hazard. 2: What would be a good/safe way of wiring the mics? Two girls with dresses and no bra or underwear. Hahahahah Seriously. In the production meeting I asked them what they would be wearing. They said a dress and no underwear. Please advise. Use this stuff to tape the mics and/or transmitters to the subjects' skin. If you are taping a transmitter to someone, put a layer of this between the transmitter and the skin for their comfort and to prevent moisture from seeping into the transmitter. The transmitter can also be put in a neoprene pouch and pinned to the inside/back of the dress. The vampire clip is a great tool to attach the lav itself. No taping involved, so not sweat issues. And I hope you have some B6s or simlar mics that might withstand this sort of abuse. RObert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Great advise. THANKS YOU. The problem is I can not buy anything online since the shoot starts on Friday. Anything I can buy locally in a chain store? Use this stuff to tape the mics and/or transmitters to the subjects' skin. If you are taping a transmitter to someone, put a layer of this between the transmitter and the skin for their comfort and to prevent moisture from seeping into the transmitter. The transmitter can also be put in a neoprene pouch and pinned to the inside/back of the dress. The vampire clip is a great tool to attach the lav itself. No taping involved, so not sweat issues. And I hope you have some B6s or simlar mics that might withstand this sort of abuse. RObert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I was thinking for TX to use something like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Few questions. 1: Will mole skin hold the lavs all night? maybe some champagne/booze wet hazard. 2: What would be a good/safe way of wiring the mics? Two girls with dresses and no bra or underwear. Hahahahah Seriously. In the production meeting I asked them what they would be wearing. They said a dress and no underwear. Please advise. Moleskin will hold all night just use a larger piece if your concerned about water hazards Use a B6 with a vampire clip if your really concerned as that will never move In the past when dealing with barely dressed women on a reality show I always use a neopax waist or thigh strap won't go anywhere. toughest part is getting the microphone in place as they are wearing next to nothing and your fishing around in there. I suspect due to being in Vegas you deal with these "Problems" often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Try using a hair mount for the lav. Here's a shot of a workout instructor with a lav in her hair on my current shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Her's another shot of her for your enjoyment. I know you can see the lav in her hair. That was done delberately to show placement. When shooting the lav is buried and is invisable. No sweat issues and the sound is much better that a bra mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 "toughest part is getting the microphone in place as they are wearing next to nothing and your fishing around in there. I suspect due to being in Vegas you deal with these "Problems" often" No problem. This is Vegas. I can "fish" around without being sued for harassment. (: I use to use these elastic bands under the dresses but I can not find them. I think my wife trashed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I think to mount a 416 on one of the cameras and not boom at all considering we have to walk trough clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Is the Countryman EMW as water proofed as the b6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 By the way my problem is where to put the TX!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 " I think to mount a 416 on one of the cameras and not boom at all " not the way to get good sound, IMHO !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 clean the skin with alcohol before you place any plaster mole skin to dry it dont do it with your tong and bottle of whisky as she might not understand the jester :-) Hahaha SO you are advising me to put the mole skin on the skin and not on the dress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 " put the mole skin on the skin " that is how experienced production sound folks have been doing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 " put the mole skin on the skin " that is how experienced production sound folks have been doing it... LOL I feel stupid. I have been attaching the lavs to the fabric. I hold you senator responsible for keeping me scared to ask questions!!! (: JOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I am going to follow your advise and call lectrosonics. Will ask them how to attach a TX to dress on top of naked body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 don't feel that way, or that way, either... we all often attach lav's to clothing... " to dress on top of naked body. " as opposed to attaching to a dress on a dressed body?? same way: belt and pouch. and on a real reality show, I'd ask the costumer to sew a pouch right into the wardrobe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bperlman Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Hey Robert, tell us more about Kinesio tape - skin prep, removing, strength, etc. I'm shocked that I don't know about it. I thought I had every sticky thing known to man in my kit. That's why I love this forum. Thanks. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Neopax are probably the best option next to a custom belt or a pouch sewn into the wardrobe (probably not possible) I also like the idea of an over the shoulder pouch, like the ones you posted pics of earlier. If it is possible, the Lectro SM or the SK 5212 from Sennheiser would really help hiding the Tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Senator I would like to ask you a question. What belt and pouch I can buy locally from a chain store? Do you know something? I have no time to order specialized stuff from the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Ace Elastic Bandage...not perfect, but you can go buy it right now! http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_product_detail.jsp?filterBy=&skuId=739119&productId=739119&navAction=push&n avCount=2&no_new_crumb=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Ace Elastic Bandage...not perfect, but you can go buy it right now! http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_product_detail.jsp?filterBy=&skuId=739119&productId=739119&navAction=push&n avCount=2&no_new_crumb=true Good one THANK YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Wallgreens, CVS, etc have stuff you can use (think ACE* bandage, and go from there)... Fry's, etc has stuff like cell phone and camera cases/pouches... a huge part of the gig is problem solving! *as I went to post this, I see Jason mentioned this, too... it's that great minds thing I mentioned!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 before Neopax came along, I had 2 of these (Tensor brand) that I sewn in a pouch for the Tx and velcro (instead of the clips). Do you sew? ALWAYS GLAD TO HELP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 On Baywatch, I had pouches made out of the same material as the swimsuits...if only I had "MM" TX's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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