aristotle_kumpis Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Do most of you record your ISO files as mono files? Or do you record it as one Poly file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 it depends... what does post want?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Poly unless otherwise requested by post production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Always used to record poly, but on a recent project they wanted one track iso'd in the edit for translation/transcription, so for the rest of the shoot and subsequent shoots I recorded mono, but will probably change back to poly for the next job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Sorry to sound ignorant - but what is the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 For Sound Devices Website WAV Mono vs. WAV Poly Q: The 7-Series recorders have two options for WAV files, WAV mono and WAV poly. What’s the difference between these two WAV file types? A: When choosing WAV mono (monophonic) as your file type the 7-Series will generate separate data files for each individual track recorded. The mono files generated by the 7-Series recorders have file names similar to T01_1.WAV and T01_2.WAV. The _1 and _2 after the take numbers are the mono designators added to the file name. These represent individual tracks. When choosing WAV poly (polyphonic) as your file type the 7-Series will generate one data file containing multiple tracks. The poly files generated by the 7-Series have file names similar to T01.WAV, no matter how many tracks are contained within the file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle_kumpis Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 This was just a general question for myself. But we all know to ask post what they want. I just wanted to see what most sound mixers were using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Tuffrey Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 On my Tascam dr680 I record mono as my Pro-Tools le did not seem to import the poly file when I first tested it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 " what most sound mixers were using. " most sound mixers are doing what post wants or needs. I always ask, and press for a workflow test, as that has been known to change their answers to several questions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 ok... still 'it depends' there are always bwf widget pro, and waveagent... and mp3 for transcription... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 In the absence of any directives from post (nearly all the time): up to 4 tracks: poly. Above 4 tracks: mono. phil p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPSharman Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I have never recorded anything other than poly files for the narrative work I have done. I no longer worry about odd or even number of tracks either. I have never had a request for mono files, and have never been asked to record only an even track count (although until about 4 years ago I would always deliver an even track count). For those who are unaware, some earlier Avid systems did not recognize files with an odd number of tracks, so it was required to record a blank track if needed to ensure an even number of tracks on the poly file. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Goldberger Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hey Phil, why the switch to mono files above 4 tracks? I've never had anyone ask for anything other then Polyphonic files, having recorded up to 10-track poly wavs, FWIW. E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 My experience is exactly the same as Robert's above. Odd-numbered tracks was an issue circa 2003-2004, but I'm assuming nobody is using Avid or FCP systems that old anymore. As far as I know, Pro Tools can handle up to 10-track polyphonic files, and I think starting with PT8 (and the new PT9), there's no limitation as far as I know. All Pro Tools does is just automatically splits the files into mono as they drop into the session. --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mega Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Interesting thread... I haven't recorded a poly file for over 2 years now. A few shows I've worked on in the last 2 years actually asked for mono files (which I was doing anyway) Now I just record mono files all the time unless requested otherwise. A few post folks I spoken to, told me they split the poly files into mono anyway so its better for them to receive mono to start with and eliminate another step in post. Cheers Peter Mega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Always Poly Funny story arises: Serviced a very big US medication commercial last year 9 radio mikes on actors / 1 on clapper loader plus two booms Contacted post in NY and said what I was going to deliver Total astonishment! Oh my God! It will take hours to sync it! I said I'll deliver poly tracks "What? - please send a sample!!" I emailed 10 seconds of audio on 6 tracks Back came the reply "wow they all move together!!" mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pius Fatoke Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 HI Everyone, it's niece to join the group and have learnt something new in this discussion .It's so great to be member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Visser Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I do mono unless asked for poly. I seem to observe that poly is sometimes a default because it is more portable, slightly easier to manage from a data standpoint. I have received more specific request for mono than poly when anyone cares to show a preference, and it seems to be mostly from Avid users - think that Avid natively handles mono files (perhaps)? My own preference for mono simply is related to the fractured way in which my recorder handles backups throughout the day and is better to burn through a few smaller mono files at a time rather than digesting one huge poly file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Most video location soundies are only working up to maybe 8 chan, and for that polys seem to make the most sense nowadays. For big jobs with 24-32-48 tracks etc mono files individually named are expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Feeley Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 On November 22, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Peter Mega said: I haven't recorded a poly file for over 2 years now. On November 26, 2010 at 2:48 AM, mikewest said: Always Poly Finally, a reliable way to distinguish between Aussies and Kiwis. :-) 45 minutes ago, Philip Perkins said: Most video location soundies are only working up to maybe 8 chan, and for that polys seem to make the most sense nowadays. For big jobs with 24-32-48 tracks etc mono files individually named are expected. So Phil, is that pretty much a breakdown between dialog-heavy projects and primarily music-recording gigs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Cameron Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Poly. I've never been asked for anything else, for some reason. Matter of fact, I've never been asked for poly, either. Welcome Pius, to the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 On music oriented jobs mono is all anyone ever wants or sees. Dialog stuff with a small number of channels prob going to a modern NLE like current Premiere then poly seems to be preferred. For a dialog show above 12 tr or so I'd want to drop a dime on the posties and check the workflow. Most of the 6xx jobs I've done with 4-12 isos ended up delivered as a poly pile o' isos and a separate mix (one to each card of the recorder). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I default to poly but an easily overlooked advantage to mono is much longer record time before a file break. Might be important for long rolls or concert recording or other special workflow things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Perkins Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Yes, for sure. Also, a 24+ channel poly is kind of a beast, and the only app I know that will crack it for sure is BWF Widget (PC only). Wave Agent will not deal with a poly with that many channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Reineke Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 FWIW, I worked on a film last year, where I gave them poly files (usually six tracks), until post called and asked why there so many duplicate files for each scene, take, track. For instance, scene 1, take 1, track 1 would have five duplicates; scene 1, take 1, track 2 with another five duplicates.. and so on for each scene/take/track. The DIT blamed it on me but WAS doing something.. I don't know what. After that I gave em' mono files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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