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Bartek Baranowski

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Hello,

Anyone using OST lavs? I'm considering buying their TL-40s or OST-802. Heard opinions that they compare very well to Sanken cos-11 and voice technologies respectively. Anyone had a chance to compare or check them in the field? I'm interested know what they sound likeand how do they cope in tough conditions, sweat, humidity.

Considering the price, they may be a very interesting alternative.

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Hi, and welcome to the group!

I purchased two TL-40 Lavs last week one in black and one in white. Upon using the lavs for the first time I was impressed by the build quality and how white the white lav is. The shade is much lighter than my white Sanken cos-11. The Lav head is about the size of a B3 but thankfully doesn't sound like a B3 or B6 microphone. It actually has a very flat and uncolored sound which I like it can also take alot of SPL. I had a very loud talent wired today and never had any mic level distortion at all or had to adjust the transmitter input gain to prevent overload. Just like the B3 or Cos-11 it was very easy to conceal and I found the cable to be of good construction. Overall I am very happy with my $80.00 per mic investment and plan on buying more in the future,

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 07:23:39 PM »

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thanks for the info - will check these out.  i've not even heard of these.

that price point should satisfy anyone - even oleg.

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 07:37:01 PM »

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Website is http://oscarsoundtech.com/ I have attached there price list. You just email them what you want and they send you a paypal invoice. They send mics USPS 1st class mail for $5.00 very easy

OST Price List.pdf (47.19 kB - downloaded 42 times.)

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »

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that price point should satisfy anyone - even oleg.

-greg-

I think he was the one who recommended them!

I ordered an 801, 802 and a TL-40. Should get them later this week. Dave at OST was very patient with my tomfoolery.

Thanks for your review Whitney! Glad to hear you find them a useable tool.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 08:13:34 PM »

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thanks for the info - will check these out.  i've not even heard of these.

that price point should satisfy anyone - even oleg.

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you ass.. if it was not me ,you stll was buying Trams  from Trew audio for 242 usd  ;-)

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 08:15:11 PM »

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Seriously Oleg, thanks for turning us onto them. :) 3 mics for the price of 3/4s.

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Seriously oleg, thanks for turning us onto them. :) 3 mics for the price of 3/4s.

Yes Oleg Thank You

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Seriously oleg, thanks for turning us onto them. :) 3 mics for the price of 3/4s.

No problem , happy to help to people who manufacture stuff and the end user

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 08:48:45 PM »

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you will find only one tram in my kit, a used one from pro-sound.  i never liked the sound of them but keep one around, because you never know...

so, thanks for assuming.  i always thought lav mics were overpriced.

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you will find only one tram in my kit, a used one from pro-sound.  i never liked the sound of them but keep one around, because you never know...

so, thanks for assuming.  i always thought lav mics were overpriced.

yes i know,and you are a good example for a good shopper , that's why you bought your  sankens overseas  and  not at your local dealer :-)

hope they still Ok

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »

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LOL Whitney.  I guess you got to a review before I got to mine.

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LOL Whitney.  I guess you got to a review before I got to mine.

Would still enjoy reading what you have to say about 'em.

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2011, 11:14:11 PM »

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I bought a couple of HM-701 their headworn microphones and very happy with the sound and the build quality.

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I have four 802s in all of the available colors and one TL40 in grey.  I've been very happy with them for the build quality and the sound. The customer service is outstanding as well.  Oleg turned me on to these and I'm happy he did.  The only beef I have with the TL40 is it is susceptible to breath pops.  That's the case with my B6s too so I think its a function of its small capsule size.  The choice of mounting choices is limited too.  I would love to have a vampire clip and something like the rubber block that Sanken sells for this mic. 

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place the head  pointing down/ side  or use mesh windscreen

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The choice of mounting choices is limited too.  I would love to have a vampire clip and something like the rubber block that Sanken sells.

I tried an old Tram 'cable vampire' on the TL-40 which seems to work, though I have not used it in a challenging set-up..

Indeed Bernie, a rubber block mount would be nice. It's small and light enough that 'Undercovers' hold it securely too.

Yes, like the B6, it's susceptible to the slightest wind. I did not purchase the optional metal windscreen.

See my previous comment on the OST mics:

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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2011, 04:00:22 PM »

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I emailed Dave and he immediately mailed me back, very friendly! I am flabbergasted about the pricing.. and more so because of all the user-experiences of all you fine people here in the group.. I'm on the brink of ordering..

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Every lav I've ever used can breath pop without a screen or similar diffusion

« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2011, 10:30:16 AM »

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If it's mounted externally and a percussive hits the mic. True, the B-6's are more susceptible (maddeningly). I only do the behind-the-button trick with B-6's if I'm inside, and the mic has to be out of line-of-site of the mouth to reliably avoid breath pops. I usually mount at the second button of a dress shirt to avoid pops.

I've found you still have to be careful to wrap the mic head in double sided tape or other insulation and take care of the cable to avoid clothing noise being transferred to the mic and cable.

If I'm clipping on a mic without hiding (ENG type situation), I prefer to mount a little lower to pick up more high-end response by getting a better L.O.S. to the mouth while using a windscreen to deal with pops. A Sanken between the 2nd and 3rd button (upper sternum) is generally optimal in my book and mixes better with boom. Getting it perfectly hidden and quiet under clothing in the same location is the Holy Grail.

I hope you find that helpful, without being too obvious.

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  These mics work very well with any lectrosonics and sennheiser gear(g-2) , no failures for the last year we use them extensively for my and others field work , especially good for students who as you know are very "tough" customers :-)

Excellent accessory assortment

The mics could be rewired for you or come as pig tails

Grate response and communication with the company and excellent customer support

  And the best is,  it cost almost HALF  then original TRAM

And yes , it is  USA Product :-) for these who like stripes and stars stuff

Give them a call , they have even better prices if you buy in big numbers

No need to buy used trams , it doesn't worth it :-)

Dont look at your local supporters , it is a cheap product they dont carry for you :-)

ps , i still didnt check their head worn mic , so will be glad to hear if someone put his hands on these

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Dont look at your local supporters , it is a cheap product they dont carry for you :-)

My "local supporters" are more than happy to look into anything I might want to try out. There have been many times in the past that I have found out about something interesting and my "local support" people have gotten them in, let me take away for a few days of field testing, and have then made the product available if it proves to be a useful tool.

No need to bash "local supporters" --- maybe in Israel they are not so helpful and you have to go it alone; here in Los Angeles at least our "local supporters" are actually very supportive!

- and thank you, Oleg, for the link to Oscar Sound --- these are good microphones for those who like the Tram / Sonotrim style lav.

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Dont look at your local supporters , it is a cheap product they dont carry for you :-)

My "local supporters" are more than happy to look into anything I might want to try out. There have been many times in the past that I have found out about something interesting and my "local support" people have gotten them in, let me take away for a few days of field testing, and have then made the product available if it proves to be a useful tool.

No need to bash "local supporters" --- maybe in Israel they are not so helpful and you have to go it alone; here in Los Angeles at least our "local supporters" are actually very supportive!

- and thank you, Oleg, for the link to Oscar Sound --- these are good microphones for those who like the Tram / Sonotrim style lav.

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why to give  you aditional choice if there are already twice income ones ?

why to give you  make cheaper packages , when you need to buy specific gear at their house ?

why to go in fight with companies you already represent?

why to take the customer side ?:-)

why to fight  MI stores with same equip where the % margin is much lower  ?

Jeff dont be naive , no one likes to make less money :-)

why to buy from vendor if you can buy from the manufacture ( red - example )?

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and  Jeff - i sell them here , so im on their side  or maybe im not ?:-)

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No need to bash "local supporters" --- maybe in Israel they are not so helpful and you have to go it alone-  Jeff Wexler

  Salesman is alwais a salesman no matter where he is

About who rob you more - we and the Europeans win big time .

for  example last week i got  750 usd qoate  for  usa made equip which doesn't have any customs taxes , for something that cost 450-480 in USA . no , they dont have it in stock so they dont pay interest on the money , the shipping is also barely 100 bucks inc  customs services in rush - 40 usd with usps , so yes  these some of  the people who represent stuff here.

so  you are right - i"m my local supporter 

and  i suggest everyone on that list to be  one

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I use these instead of my Sonotrims in sweaty situations and they hold up very well.  If you look at the site you'll see that they have a Tram like response model and a Sonotrim type response piece.  I like the Sonotrim curve.  I also have one of the TL40s which sounds  good too.  Its similar in sound to a Countryman B6 or B3.  Very durable as well.  I am very pleased with their pricing and customer service.  A good company to deal with.

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" Would be nice if they had some information on where they're located or a contact number and pricing. "

considering all the folks here who are for some reason suspicious of information from manufacturers anyway....

I have several of these, including headset model, and they are excellent.  they were actually first recommended to me by someone else who posts here, and my dealing with them (somewhere back east, NJ, IIRC) was excellent, including their going way above and beyond in customer service. (PM if you want details, and are willing to believe them!). sound and durability outstanding, and these are an excellent value..  I have used them frequently with Lectro and Senn Evo series, and no one has ever noticed that they are not the more expensive options...actually using the OST's with Senn Evo series is a noticeable upgrade to the sound performance, though it does not change the companding performance.

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I use these instead of my Sonotrims in sweaty situations and they hold up very well.  If you look at the site you'll see that they have a Tram like response model and a Sonotrim type response piece.  I like the Sonotrim curve.  I also have one of the TL40s which sounds  good too.  Its similar in sound to a Countryman B6 or B3.  Very durable as well.  I am very pleased with their pricing and customer service.  A good company to deal with.

Bernie

tl-40 sounds  better then b-6  , at least for me , it doesn't say allot as there is  allot of stuff  that only  only b-6  can make it  work .

not only a good sounding  product but excellent for the price

  No need to buy  Used Trams :-)

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tl-40 sounds  better then b-6  , at least for me , it doesn't say allot as there is  allot of stuff  that only  only b-6  can make it  work .

not only a good sounding  product but excellent for the price

  No need to buy  Used Trams :-)

Totally agree with all of this.  I have B6s too for those crunchy clothes situations.  Looking to get a Rode pin mic soon too.

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Sorry to be dim, but these are TRAM or Sonotrim knock-offs, right?  They've copied all the accessories too, prob from China?

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well, I would say no, as they are clearly labeled and sold as OST products, but one model is pretty clearly very much like the TRAM/Sonotrim's (which of course brings up the TRAM vs. Sonotrim question); yes they have most of the accessories, and they are all cross-interchangeable... for all I know, they could come from the same factory...

OST used to make introductory offers in response to web inquiries, sales@oscarsoundtech.com so perhaps those who are interested ought to consider giving them a try.  Those who are not interested, of course, may disregard all this information and discussion.

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Sorry to be dim, but these are TRAM or Sonotrim knock-offs, right?  They've copied all the accessories too, prob from China?

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I call them  microphones :-)

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Sorry to be dim, but these are TRAM or Sonotrim knock-offs, right?  They've copied all the accessories too, prob from China?

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Philip , how many  microphone companies you know which make their own capsules ?;-)

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A variety of lavs is a good thing since we all know that nothing is perfect for every situation.  I own four Sonotrims, four OST 802s, four Countryman B6s, and one TL 40.  The Oscar Soundtechs are an excellent solution regardless of price.  I was skeptical at first and ordered accordingly.  I ordered more after using them and finding they had the quality and durability I was looking for.  Well worth checking out for yourself.

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Philip , how many  microphone companies you know which make their own capsules ?;-)

Don't know, don't care.  I'm just curious if the OST that LOOKS like a Tram SOUNDS like a Tram, ie would take its place for that particular kind of voice/mounting. 

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Don't know, don't care.  I'm just curious if the OST that LOOKS like a Tram SOUNDS like a Tram, ie would take its place for that particular kind of voice/mounting. 

thanks

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it sounds like tram and it cost half , for me its a sure winner

not to mention  for every one who need replace g-2 /g-3 original capsule to make the sennheiser sounds distinguish  its the n-1 choice  to invest only 20% for the original price and not 40%-70%.

dont be fullish  by the low price , since these mics go to you by the manufacturer and dont have dealer hand inside , you pay exactly  what  it really worth , when you buy tram/sonotrim/countryman  you pay the aditional  40-70% of what the reseller get them - so dont be confused , its not so cheap mic , its just how they see their business - from manufacture to the end user - what should be the right way  for almost any equip .

so no need to buy used trams for sennheisers either :-)

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I'm just curious if the OST that LOOKS like a Tram SOUNDS like a Tram, ie would take its place for that particular kind of voice/mounting. 

I spent about a couple of hours with two friends of mine A/B-ing several "real" Trams vs. an OST, and none of us could hear the difference, plus the cabling they use is very smooth and flexible, not as stiff as Tram's. The OST's will also fit all Tram mounts and windscreens. Very good people to deal with, too.

Oscar Sound Tech gets a big thumbs up from me.

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2010, 03:15:03 PM »

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I'm a Tram user and on their recommendation putting in an order for an 801. Looking forward to hearing it against the original.. Great thread that could save money!!

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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2010, 12:54:48 PM »

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want to talk about customer service, and follow-up??I bought a couple of their headworn mic's about a tear ago (haven't had any problems, but just got this email:"Hi Senator Mike Michaels, We discovered a minor defect on our HM-701 that the small plastic clip is not clipping the wire well, the problem has been fixed. If that plastic clip is bothering you, please send the mic back to us and we will replace it with our improved model with the same termination. We are trying to prevent any potential problem, even if it is not bothering you, it is better to get our new model as we want you to be happy with our products. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Best regards,Dave  "

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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2010, 09:09:07 PM »

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Will my TRAM clips work with the 801 / 802?

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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2010, 07:56:34 AM »

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So for the price I'm very interested it trying them out. I am primarily using COS-11's but I have some worn TRAMS that are at, or near the end of their useful life.

So I'm trying to decide between the 801 or 802. I looked at the frequency response of the two mic's on line - and I see the 802 has a bit better midrange and some more highend - but how does that really translate to how it sounds? 

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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2010, 08:15:36 AM »

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Quote from: Jnorflus on November 30, 2010, 07:56:34 AM

So for the price I'm very interested it trying them out. I am primarily using COS-11's but I have some worn TRAMS that are at, or near the end of their useful life.

So I'm trying to decide between the 801 or 802. I looked at the frequency response of the two mic's on line - and I see the 802 has a bit better midrange and some more highend - but how does that really translate to how it sounds?

The somewhat boosted mid range & high end work helps to compensate for the MR & HE loss when buried under clothing and for the chest resonance when not. Lavs with a flat frequency response tend to sound dull under clothing.

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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2010, 08:16:15 AM »

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it gives you some compensation when you berry mics under heavy cloths , in Israel we all wear  T shirts and no suits  , so i like the flat one  more :-)

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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2010, 10:04:14 AM »

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  I'm in the same boat as Jnorflu, My remaining Trams are at the end of it's usable life, I was looking at the new Rode Lav but am hesitant of purchasing mics I have not used. Despite the demo shootouts where they seem to sound good,  but what about cable noise and such. Price-wise about the only thing that makes the Rode attractive is the modular connector for using it hardwired. And I'm not gonna pay $170. for the TR-79 XLR module.  Anyone know of any affordable phantom power supply options for Trams or B3/6 other than purchasing the Rode set up:

- Rode lav/cable: $250.00 (about)

- TA-5 or 3.5mm plug: $18.00

- XLR phantom power adaptor: $30.00

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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2010, 10:09:37 AM »

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ost have power supplies as well  for their mics , give them a call ( e mail ) it may  work for you

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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2010, 08:06:24 PM »

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Jnorflus, I have an 801 arriving this week. I start a project tomorrow and can give a report back as to how the 801 compares with the Tram.  I'm listening back to a track now from my last show that had a Tram and Cos-11 on different actors.  I'm just not feeling the love for the Cos-11's.  If the room is quite then it sounds great, unfortunately I normally work in noisy places..

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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2010, 08:26:22 PM »

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I've ordered 2 headworn microphones. Dave has dispatched them, waiting for them to arrive here.

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2 hours ago, Affinity said:

I use the 801, 802, and TL-40s with my G3s.  Highly recommended and OST has great customer service.

- Same here. Best bang-for-the-buck for sure. Made in the USA and A+ customer service.

As an OST user since 2010, I have no real complaints, except the TL-40 has a 'lower the normal' max SPL spec, but that's rarely a problem with dialog. The 801 and 802 are the exact dimensions as the Tram TR50, even the mounting hardware is interchangeable. The 4mm round TL40 has a flatter response than the rectangular shaped 800 series. The HM-701 headset edition uses the TL40 element.

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