karlw Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 We have had some users report that Mode 6 (developed to match Shure's older UHF series) works better for G3 (HDX companding) than Mode 3 does. It's worth giving it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvanstry Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Karl, can you post a list of what the compat mode are meant for. I can't find any list on what mode to use with what brand. Thanks Pascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlw Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Certainly! 100 Mode = Lectrosonics 100 Series 200 Mode = Lectrosonics 200 Series Mode 3 = Sennheiser HiDyn Plus 400/Hyb = Lectrosonics 400 Series Digital Hybrid Mode 5 = Lectrosonics IFB Mode 6 = Shure UHF (pre UHFR) Mode 7 = Audio LTD 2020/2040 series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Had a test with Lectro SRb and Sennheiser SK50 two years ago. The compatibility mode only sounded good when I lowered the gain on the Sennheiser, that's what the key test made obvious. I needed to send about 20dB less into the SK50 to have as good results as if there was a Sennheiser receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantin Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Mode 3 = Sennheiser HiDyn Plus No wonder then that Mode 3 doesn't work well with the G3 series. It's HiDyn Plus vs HDx companders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek H Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Mode 6 does seem to sound alright with a g3 but the output seems low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 A question in he same vain (not meaning to hijack): Sending a Sennheiser 2000 Tx into a Wisycom Mcr42 gives me a stable, good sounding, but very, very low signal (raising the noise floor considerably). Both using the "Wisy" and the "Senn"-companders. Is the "Senn"-compander modelled for the HiDyn and not the HDX? Anyone know? And yes, I just mailed Wisy too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Coomer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Sennheiser compander that Wisycom uses, labeled "ENR-WISY" in the US models and "SENN" on the European, is HyDynPlus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Sennheiser compander that Wisycom uses, labeled "ENR-WISY" in the US models and "SENN" on the European, is HyDynPlus. Thanks, and damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Casares Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 A question in he same vain (not meaning to hijack): Sending a Sennheiser 2000 Tx into a Wisycom Mcr42 gives me a stable, good sounding, but very, very low signal (raising the noise floor considerably). Both using the "Wisy" and the "Senn"-companders. Is the "Senn"-compander modelled for the HiDyn and not the HDX? Anyone know? And yes, I just mailed Wisy too... As mentioned before on this post by Pyers from Raycom, Wisycom's Senn mode is for HiDyn Plus, while EVO mode is for HDX. The Sennheiser compander that Wisycom uses, labeled "ENR-WISY" in the US models and "SENN" on the European, is HyDynPlus.As far as I know that's not correct. ENR-WISY was their first companding mode, and it is for using with Wisycom's Tx's exclusively, both in Europe and US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus Wedin Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 As mentioned before on this post by Pyers from Raycom, Wisycom's Senn mode is for HiDyn Plus, while EVO mode is for HDX. As far as I know that's not correct. ENR-WISY was their first companding mode, and it is for using with Wisycom's Tx's exclusively, both in Europe and US. There was no "EVO" mode on the MCR42 I was using. Is that a software update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VM Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 A question in he same vain (not meaning to hijack): Sending a Sennheiser 2000 Tx into a Wisycom Mcr42 gives me a stable, good sounding, but very, very low signal (raising the noise floor considerably). Both using the "Wisy" and the "Senn"-companders. Is the "Senn"-compander modelled for the HiDyn and not the HDX? Anyone know? And yes, I just mailed Wisy too... SEN compander is for 5000 Senheiser series, and EVO for G2, G3 and 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenix Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I have for testing a US model Wisy 42 receiver. The companding menu on this receiver includes: ENC 1.2 ENR 1.2 EVO AL SR SEN ENC Wis ENR Wis Previous contributors imply that SEN and ENR are both Hy-Dyn Plus, while others disagree. Can we get a clarification of all these Expander modes? What is SR? When tested with Lectro 400 transmitters in modes #1 through 6, none sound good and level is very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Williamson Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Today I got my SRb's in the mail and tried one in 200 compat mode with my UM200cs. It didn't sound great. A bit noisy, that RF noise floor kinda sound. I'll have to try re-tuning and see what I get. On the other hand, my UH400a sounds just great with a UCR211 Receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlw Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Travis, we did some tests here with a UM200c with UCR211 and UCR411a (set to 200 mode) receivers. In general, what we found agrees with what you've described. 400 Series transmitters in 200 mode will work very well with 200 series receivers, but 200 series receivers with 400 Series receivers in 200 mode leave a little bit to be desired. We did find that if you push the gain on your UM200C and then back off the output level of the 411A (or the input on your mixer) that the results could be improved. However, this does mean that you'll be "tickling" the limiter in your U200C perhaps a bit more than you would want. That said, we found it to be usable when set up this way. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 1/21/2015 at 7:04 AM, karlw said: Mode 6 = Shure UHF (pre UHFR) How do Lectrosonics receivers in Mode 6 sound when receiving from Shure UHFR transmitters? (if it works at all?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlw Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 hours ago, IronFilm said: How do Lectrosonics receivers in Mode 6 sound when receiving from Shure UHFR transmitters? (if it works at all?) Not particularly well. UHFR "audio reference companding" is quite a bit different from the older "UHF" compandor that they used prior to the UHFR series, and what Mode 6 was based on. It may be OK for scratch, VOG, and the like, but for critical applications, I would not recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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