carbonhobbit Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Even with a 788, there would at lease be a file name, the machines are always making metadata. If not a produced name at lease the date and time, even the 552 does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrider Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I agree with you about the Fusion. I am a Fusion owner, and metadata entry is efficient on that unit. On a 788, it is a little less efficient, and I haven't always been able to keep up with renaming tracks when chasing after reality talent. A little time after the wrap with Wave Agent usually does the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 This is also the production sound teacher who says that you either get metadata or good sound, not both, because there's no time on set. Sure you can! It just takes skill, experience, and effort. I'll always excuse a run & gun crew for not providing metadata (or printed reports) to post, because I understand that there's no easy way to provide that information while (literally) running down a street or dodging bullets. Some documentaries are that way as well. But in a controlled situation, like a sit-down interview or a scripted short or feature, it's not rocket science to provide good metadata and good sound. And also good labeling, sound IDs at the head of each take, and accurate timecode. I'm still curious what school is teaching this kind of folderol... --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Liston Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Sure you can! It just takes skill, experience, and effort. I'm still curious what school is teaching this kind of folderol... --Marc W. +1. Where is this happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think the only people advocating no timecode are people who are forced to use prosumer (or less) equipment that doesn't have timecode, and they're trying to justify a less-than-professional approach. The popularity of cameras like the Canon 5D and 7D, plus recorders like the Zoom H4, has convinced some people that timecode isn't necessary. Granted, the film industry got along without timecode for decades, using just film and mag (or 60Hz Nagra pilot tone), but it's a real chore in post to have to deal with hundreds (or thousands) of pieces of shots and have no easy way to tie them all together. Timecode makes this so much easier for everyone involved in the post process. --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actualsizeaudio Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Timecode is dead eh........bwaaaahhaaaahaaahaahahaaa. I teach mixing at a university one semester out of the year. I would classify that statement as bad teaching. If you repeated that on a set anyone with a vast array of production experience would laugh in your face. You did the smart thing coming on here and asking people who actually work in the field. That shows me you actually care about learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawharp Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Producers and assistant editors sure don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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