Simon Paine Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I was checking out the heavy bags post, and thought I would share my recently put together light weight bag. It's great for direct to camera Documentary / Reality style mixing. I replaced my 442 for the substantially lighter Mix-pre D. Channel 1 is my boom. Channel 2 the 411A RX. Channel 3 and 4 from the SR RX. D4 gets AES signal from Mix-Pre D. D4 acts as Camera hop and IFB feed (director gets Quadra IEM portable receiver) and I loose one more piece of equipment (comtek TX) from my bag. Petrol PS607 bag is just the right size. Whole bag runs off of a battery conveniently located under the mixer. Some days I need to pull out the big bag (788 / CL-8 with 3 SR's, 1 411A, boom and D4) but most days, this little package is more then capable of doing the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McQueen Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Clean looking kit! I see you're a block 24 user? Right Now my bag is 552 and 2 SRa's with np1 bds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nault Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 What battery are you running the bag with, Simon? I've noticed the D4 sucks back some juice. Cheers, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 How are you finding the Mix-Pre D Simon? I've been thinking about getting one for while, and you're using it pretty much how I would, I think I might have to take the plunge.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 What battery are you running the bag with, Simon? I've noticed the D4 sucks back some juice. Cheers, Rich I'm Using Swit V-mount batteries. The 126 Watt Hour version. I chose the Swit V-mounts for 2 reasons. 1 - I needed the bigger batteries for my big bag (788/cl 8, SR's, 411'2, D4) and 2, they have a built in D-tap right on the battery so I didn't need any kind of V-mount adaptor, just a d-tap plug going to my Battery bud. In this bag I've been able to get 2 to 3 days without switching battery. How are you finding the Mix-Pre D Simon? I've been thinking about getting one for while, and you're using it pretty much how I would, I think I might have to take the plunge.... So far I'm liking the Mix-Pre. I thought using channels 3 and 4 would more awkward, but once you get used to it it works quite well. I'm even starting to be able to operate those channels with one hand, but it's reminding me of when I first tried playing guitar and trying to stretch those fingers across a few frets. I'm sure it will get easier with practice. There have been a few compromises with switching to the Mix-pre from my 442. Headphone monitoring being one of them. You hear the main mix output, thats it. Sometimes I've wished to be able to just hear left or right channel, but the savings in weight is a nice tradeoff. And besides, I've already got a simple headphone adaptor project in mind to solve that. The one compromise I didn't have to make was sound quality. The Mix -pre sounds great. And the best part is my back feels good after a day of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Toline Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Simon, Here's an HP adaptor I made. It uses a C&K 7215 momentary switch for the left & right with the center position for normal monitoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnewton Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Really nice, Simon. How do you route 3+4 to the second AES output? I'm not familiar with the MixPreD architecture. Chris Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomboom Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Simon: NICE work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Simon, Here's an HP adaptor I made. It uses a C&K 7215 momentary switch for the left & right with the center position for normal monitoring. Eric, that looks exactly like what I had in mind for using with the Mix-pre D. With maybe a slightly smaller box. Really nice, Simon. How do you route 3+4 to the second AES output? I'm not familiar with the MixPreD architecture. Chris Newton Hey Chris, The mix pre D is only a 2 bus mixer, so I can send channels 3 and 4 to either the Left, Right or both outputs. It's pretty quick to assign. Just hold down the silver button above the 2 input fader then hit your headphone volume pot to cycle throught the options (Channel off, Left, Centre, right) But there isn't a second AES output bus for channels 3 and 4 directly. I use the D4 in 2 channel mode with the Mix Pre D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan925 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I concur with Simon, the Mix-Pre D sounds great! The AES out is very handy too. I do need to work on switching to ch 3&4 one handed cause it worked me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardDevine Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 just picked up this bag too. Love it, fits the Mix-Pre-D and 744T quite nicely:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Thanks for that Simon, I can't think of a good reason not to buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt McGowin Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hey guys , Nice portables. thanks for sharing those pics. Very cool to fit that gear in a small rig. The Mix-Pre-D seems awesome. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Beal Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Oooh, a topic near and dear to my heart. After developing mild but persistent back pain a couple years ago I started tweaking my ENG/docu kit in an effort to reduce weight and size while keeping functionality high. I'm pretty happy with my current setup. Here's a pic of my (very beat-up looking) bag as it is right now: I've got two SRa's going into a 302. The second SRa goes through a custom built active fader box and then into the Mix In. The main XLR outs from the 302 feed two SMa's for a camera hop to another SRa. The Tape Out feeds into my Zaxcom ZFR100/STA150. The output of the ZFR100 feeds into a Comtek transmitter (not pictured here, but it would go in the left outside pouch). Everything is powered by a Swit 7.2V battery and is controlled by a single master switch. It runs for about 6 hours with everything powered up. So in total, I've managed to cram 4 channels of wireless, one boom track, a stereo camera hop, a Comtek feed, and a 2-channel timecode synced backup recording, into a bag that weighs 8.6lbs! I've traveled around the world with this thing and it hasn't hurt my back once. Now I wake up pain-free. -Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Paine Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Nice lightweight bag Rob. Do you just carry it with a waist belt ? or do you use shoulder straps/harness also ? I debated wether to go 302 or Mix Pre-D. I've got a sneaking suspicion that there may be an update to the 302 coming out soon. Maybe the 302-D ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Beal Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I use a shoulder strap as well, I just unclipped it for this picture. But the built-in waist belt is one of the best features of the Kata bag, it lightens the load even more. An updated 302 would be sweet! It's my favourite mixer in my arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I went lightweight for the NM desert (Spaceport America). Pretty standard use for the bag, but 2 x 411 and a 302. On this job I was cabled to camera, but my wireless hop would normally be a Zaxcom ENG hop that can fit in a few places on this setup. I have an NP-1 under the mixer. IFB TX would fit one of those outside pouches too. I put some spare batteries in the "belly pocket" that's not long enough for a NP-1. Not super accessible, but better than running back to wherever I stashed my pelican of spare stuff. That front pocket is pretty sizable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpaul215 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Another nice thing about these mini rigs is that they fit in small cases. I put my whole sound package in the Pelican 1510 in the picture, which means I was able to carry it on the plane (including my mini k-tek pole). My clothes were in a carry-on messenger bag. Very efficient way to travel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I m very impressed by these lightweight rigs and would be curious on seeing more pictures of these custom fader boxes goig into the 302. And for the tc stamped backup recording from the zaxcom device: do you simply jam it from the camera and let it run allday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominiquegreffard Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Oh and where do you usually place your hop trx on your rig when it is on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason porter Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 bad pic, but this is my usual setup (minus a Sennheiser G2 as an IFB Tx. The Zaxcom hop is upper right (Stereoline) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadoStefanov Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I miss this setup. I used it for years. just picked up this bag too. Love it, fits the Mix-Pre-D and 744T quite nicely:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Beal Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 And for the tc stamped backup recording from the zaxcom device: do you simply jam it from the camera and let it run allday? I use the Zaxcom as the master clock, jam a Lockit Box and put that on the camera. Re-jam at lunch and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSound Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Here is my small 302 bag. Zaxcom link goes on right outside pocket IFB left hand pocket BDS right next to wireless np1 in bottom of bag. It is great for fast pace jobs or gig that I am on my feet all day but don't require alot of gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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