Derek H Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Is the d4 chomping through your NP1 any faster than a traditional setup or is the difference negligible? If the d4 receiver could transmit a channel or two back to the transmitter I'd be totally sold on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngooch Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Wow... great job. Something I dont understand: you have one L/R switch for each input: that would mean that you can send both inputs to the same channel (L or R) ? This acts as a mixer then (or can you only send one input to one channel) ? With gain control, this is fabulous. I absolutely need to build one of these myself for my Sonosax SXM32 which have also a Mix In input. But I am so bad in electronic, would you have the schematic (and name of the components especially for the boost in gain) ? It would be wonderful. Very thanks in advance As far as i know, Sonosax is the smallest mixer with direct outs. At least until the next version of the 302 is available...... How do you like it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Simon, Thanks for the reply. I crunched some numbers just to see what it compares to. The d4 is great cause its all in one. But you said you give a Quadra IEM for the director, but what about any other listening receivers. Since the d4 is in 920-940? range is there any others that might not cost someone 1200 a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiomprd Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 " is there any others " doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonyeah Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I love my Sonosax SXM32. Preamp sound quality is amazing. You got one aes output. Direct outputs pre fader (or post) very helpful for use with a 744 for example. One downside is power consumption though with NP1 70W it can handle almost one day with one 48V and two wireless. Biggest frustration is it is only 3 channels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 My MixPre-D arrived today, along with one of the tiny Petrol bags (607) An hours worth of fiddling later, here's the results: 3 channels of radio, boom, mixer, 744T, all powered by an NP1, a tad over 5 kilos, my previous, SQN based bag was just over 11 kilos, I'm happy already Thanks to Simon for the inspiration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Thanks for the post Jon. I'm considering a similar setup at present. How do you intend to handle traditional 2 channel routing to camera with that setup? Perhaps just using input routing presets on the 744? I've done the maths and a 744 plus Mix pre weighs roughly the same as a 552 but I'm still intrigued by these small rigs. There are pluses and minuses to each I suppose but I do already own a 744... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 How do you intend to handle traditional 2 channel routing to camera with that setup? Perhaps just using input routing presets on the 744? I haven't thought that far ahead yet, got to see if I get on with using the additional ins on the MixPre-D, I'll probably revert to my SQN based bag for those jobs, this bag has it's place, but I'm not sure that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McQueen Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 i recently built up this little kit for run n gun simple jobs. with wireless hop to camera or straight cable to camera. nomad is a little over kill sometimes and its nice to show up with a backpack, boom and a small mixer bag slung over your shoulder rather than a 75lb pelican case... but ordered an emergency rx earlier this week. also picked up the tascam dr-40 recorder, it can be powered by usb, which is pretty dang sweet and takes real line level in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Can the DR40 operate when it's being charged by USB? I've got a couple of Tascam units that charge from USB but can't operate while doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McQueen Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 i can't confirm that at the moment with my current bag setup, i've got the bds3 in that bag and have yet to purchase the newer bds4 with usb. i do have a battery bud II setup and a usb power adapter for that but its on loan out at the moment. i'll have it back tuesday and will check.\\ EDIT: or i'll just got plug it up via a usb to AC power adapter… duh… i'll update in a little while after i check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlempen Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hey all! For those of you who fit an 744T and a MixPre-D in this bag, on which input is your boom in your rig? I've just worked for 6 weeks with this setup and I couldn't set my mind on which is best. The boom (a Schoeps CCM MS setup) on the 744T inputs 1+2 gives you more options for the low-cut filters, but the faders are tiny. With the boom on the MixPre-D inputs, the faders are nice, but the low-cut is only 6dB/octave and 80 or 160 Hz, that's not enough to cut the boom handling noise of my MS rig. So what's your setup? BTW, I've just made a new tiny cable with an impedance matching -12dB pad to connect the MixPre-D AES3 output to the 744T AES3-id BNC input, works great and reduces the cable clutter even more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've got boom into input 1 on the MixPre, main talent radio on 2 on the MixPre, the other two radios into the 744, seems easier to use the faders on the MixPre than on the 744T. That cable sounds perfect, I might make one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlempen Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 That cable sounds perfect, I might make one myself. Thanks Jon, For the AES cable, I used the passive resistor network found in figure 1 of this excellent Rane note: www.rane.com/note149.html I tried the cable without the resistors and it seemed to work, but I prefer to stay on the safe side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlempen Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 While I'm at it, one thing that's been bugging me for a while with this Petrol bag, and I have two of them, the older blue design as well as the new black one, is the battery pouch which is supposed to keep the battery warm between the mixer and your belly. Why on earth didn't they make it wider, in order to fit an industry standard NP1 with an NP-shoe? It's only 1 inch short of fitting in the pouch... Aside from that, I really like these Petrol bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'll second that on the battery pouch, I always thought that was one of the best features on the PEGZ range. Though I have slotted my NP1 under the MixPre, it fits perfectly, with the Hawk-Woods NP1 cup at the right hand side, it's easy to switch things on and off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I use to belly pouch to hold my np1, and theres no issue, i may add so velcro to help secure it some more. Thought im not sure the belly pouch was intended to be a battery pouch. Hawk woods makes a 35w stubby np1. I think they are hard to find in the states. They would be a nice size for some of these lightweight bags, and would fit in that battery/belly pouch. You would need to keep a couple extra in your backpack just in case. Jon, since your in the UK wheres a good spot to order from to get a hawkwoods stubby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 While I'm at it, one thing that's been bugging me for a while with this Petrol bag, and I have two of them, the older blue design as well as the new black one, is the battery pouch which is supposed to keep the battery warm between the mixer and your belly. Why on earth didn't they make it wider, in order to fit an industry standard NP1 with an NP-shoe? It's only 1 inch short of fitting in the pouch... Aside from that, I really like these Petrol bags. I use the 'stubby' Hawk Woods NP35- fits nicely, with space for a power distro too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Thomas Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I bought my NP35's from Visual Impact as they were cheapest at the time. You can get them directly from Hawk Woods, or from Pinknoise or Soundkit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gilbert Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I get all my Hawk-Woods stuff direct from HW themselves, failing that, www.soundkit.co.uk is a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.kraus Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I prepared this kit for an upcoming double-system shoot (interviews with Canon 7D) : Sonosax SX-R4 recorder 2x Lectrosonics UCR411A B26 Lectrosonics UM400A B23 (IFB tx) IDX NP-L7S Remote Audio BDSv4 Kortwich 804800 Beyerdynamic DT250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Matt nice set up. i know a guy how uses a sx-r4 and he loves it. Pretty sweet machines. For the size, 8 tracks to Harddrive, two tracks to CF. plus four xlr inputs, one stereo line input then the 8 channel multipin aes input. Thats alot of different combination. Only if my wallet approved. *edited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.kraus Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Matt nice set up. i know a guy how uses a sx-r4 and he loves it. Pretty sweet machines. For the size, plus full size aes inputs. Only if my wallet approved. Hey Colin, Don't assume anything is out of reach. The SX-R4 seemed a good value. For me, it is a big step up from the FR-2. Talk to your local dealer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Wielage Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 ...i've got the bds3 in that bag and have yet to purchase the newer bds4 with usb. Hey, don't forget they make a BDS -> USB cable, which is about US$35. That's cheaper than buying a new BDS4. I gotta say, the remote RM2 meter capability is the best reason to go with the BDSv3 or BDSv4. Very cool, compact bag, BTW. --Marc W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Heath Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hey Colin, Don't assume anything is out of reach. The SX-R4 seemed a good value. For me, it is a big step up from the FR-2. Talk to your local dealer! Right now in my life i only need two tracks. But if i needed to upgrade when the time comes im gonna consider it. Its pretty close to the price of a 788t. After looking at the sx-m32 id be down to swap my 302 for it. Unless a new 302 came out and does what the m32 does aka direct outs. Maybe down the line i'll drop some cash to get both the sx-R4 and sx-m32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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